Waterford Hurling (now incorporating intermediate football) 2013 and subsequent years

City end terrace is the terrace at the City End of Walsh Park. Ie the east end. The Waterford gurriers usually congregate on the West End Terrace. The only problem I would foresee is that you will be looking directly back into the sun at that hour.

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Sound :+1:t2:

Pretty poor look out for Waterford city hurling when only one city club has a representative on the starting 15. No one from DLS, Mount Sion, Roanmore, Ferrybank, Erin’s Own or St Saviours on the team and the fellas from Ballygunner who were on the team, Kenny, Leavey, Mahony and Hutchinson were amongst our worst performers both days. I’d exempt Fitzgerald because he is probably carrying an injury.

Billy Nolan

Silly me :cold_sweat:

Peter Power RIP.

The chastening defeat for Waterford that was mostly expected, materialised. Today really signposted the tough next few years that are ahead for Waterford. It was mostly the over 30 brigade that kept Waterford some way competitive.

Bit of a strange one after what was widely touted as a do or die match for Waterford, they actually have another bite at it, in a real do or die match next week against a Cork side coming in on the back of an even more demoralising defeat.

I’ve always had my doubts about Queally and what he would bring to the table. We don’t seem to have any tactic at all other than leather ball down on top of the forwards. And we don’t even seem to be able to come out and win a quarter of those. We have a physically small enough set of forwards anyway so I am unsure why that’s the plan with them.
Our fielding is poor and our touch and control is no where near the required level across the team. It seems to be confusion when we go to move the ball through the middle third of the pitch and opposition players tend to dispossess us easily and the man with the ball has no support. Because it looks like he doesn’t know what to do and the fella who gave it to him has his bit done.
The goal we got yesterday was another one that came from a mishit shot for a point that Bennett reacted to quicker than anyone else and scored. Or striking and shot selection is cat.
The amount of lads fumbling the ball too is frustrating to watch, dropping a ball, going to catch a ball and knocking it away from yourself are all extremely poor at that level. But this wasn’t a one off it went on all game.
Maybe it’s all just terrible habits picked up at 1B level that you can get away with. But surely in your in house training you focus on that. We are getting eaten alive because we can get a ball into our hand and keep it there.

Good article in Sunday Times yesterday on Waterford’s probable decline when main lads now move on. Bleak times ahead.

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Barron is some warrior. Unbelievable again yesterday got seven shots off scored 0-4. I fear where we’ll be without him. Our full back line coped relatively well but again Leavy and TDB were taken to the absolute cleaners by Ormonde and Morris. There’s a huge issue at six now. Tadgh isn’t near the player he was before and sitting off the centre forward to close off goal chances is robbing Peter to pay Paul. He’s not even under the puckouts or taking a short puckout he just seems to be coasting. Again the form of the Ballygunner players is really poor. The most action Dessie’s hurley got was when he wore it off a post after getting rightfully subbed. Queally is a tactical dinasour forever to slow to make changes. I can’t understand how Sean Walsh is only getting a minute here and there. He’s a big physical ball winning athlete needed for the poor delivery in.

Great downhill cyclists in fairness

Question answered.

Was a great player, not anymore……

They collectively hit the wall in Thurles last December and don’t look to have recovered.

Dessie looked like he’d rather have been anywhere else than in Semple Stadium yesterday.

He was anonymous again yesterday - sad to see.

Assume it was Doyle matched up on him, he is a sticky man marker

The fumble under the stand near the end was the nadir to it all. I dont think the captaincy has helped either.

Doyle was on him and is an absolute rolls royce. Between himself and Cathal O’Reilly off the 20’s, Tipp should have the two corner backs set up for the next decade.

Sorry mate, don’t know how.

Was listening to Kieran O’Connor & Michael Ryan on WLR yesterday. O’Connor is an excellent commentator.

Waterford are lacking players for sure and just don’t have the personnel at the moment. That’s a given. They are poorly coached as well as you’ve said. Tipperary kept it simple enough yesterday and let the ball do the work in a sweltering hot day in Thurles. A lot of piercing and far too much running from Waterford.

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It’s not even a case of a probable decline and bleak times ahead, that’s been the case for Waterford for a few years now. It’s only that the process will get worse over the next 4-5 years.

Waterford won something like just 4 Munster Championship matches in the 24 years between 1974-98 before their modern day revival in 1998 and they are a lot of the way back to pre 1998 levels already.

Next Sunday, bar a big upset will confirm 6 out of 6 failures to advance from the Munster Round Robin phase. They’re already a long way behind Limerick (6), Cork (5), Clare (4), Tipperary (3) in that regard. Waterford presently are a bit like the likes of Carlow or Laois competing in Leinster Championship.

Waterford’s relative success post 98 came from a few strong underage teams that emerged from almost perennial whipping boy status in underage grades. Minor team of 1992, U21 team of 1992, De La Salle AI Colleges winning team of 2007 and 2008, Minor and U21 All Ireland winning teams of 2013 and 2016.

It’s a numbers game and Waterford have the smallest pick and number of clubs of the Munster hurling counties. They are dwarfed by the pick and weight of numbers of Cork and Tipperary. Waterford rely on strong crops of underage teams coming through to sustain it every couple of years. There’s been next to nothing since the U21 All Ireland win in 2016. The round Robin win over Limerick last year, effectively a 4th v 5th decider between two already eliminates teams is, outside of Kerry, possibly the only win at U20/U21 level since the 2016 All Ireland Final.

The well of players coming through at the moment has run close to dry.

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