What Climate Crisis?

Careful mate

Oh aye, look down your nose at the poor farmer

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No such thing ffs

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Mukhtar on Twitter: “Mike Graham went on the Jeremy Kyle show to embarrass himself one more time. https://t.co/vhOCSCUln9” / Twitter

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Prime Time last night was interesting. Agriculture is fucked unless the country negotiates a way to allow it be treated differently with the EU. If food has to be grown somewhere then why not reward it being grown in the least damaging way possible. We’re all going to be vegetarians in 30 years time anyway.

The English press seems to be mostly made up of publications trying to be Alan Partridge.

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We import millions of tonnes of feed for cows, we need to stop stuff like that. More and more people will reject meat and dairy over the next few years. Can’t see any justification for it to be treated differently when the IFA are climate change deniers

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I find it a hard one to square. If Ireland ends up cutting the herd and making severe targets in the agriculture sphere, but Europe ends up buying south American beef instead of beef that was grown in Ireland, then that seems to me to be both cutting off our nose to spite our face and also worse globally from for the environment.

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Vegan and vegetarian is not sustainable for the whole planet. Would make more sense to work with agriculture rather than point fingers. Sleepy eamon is great for this.

I suggest methane retrieval systems (dunno if they exist maybe one for the business idea tread) in slurry pits and sheds for keeping livestock. Compressors and tanks to store the gas. Have a calor truck swing by and collect the gas and sell to the grid. Biogas required no change in existing gas infrastructure. The farmer will get some payment for the gas and will be removing the methane from going directly to the atmosphere while also reducing natural gas usages with a renewable source.

Small scale electricity generation through PV panels on sheds and small scale wind turbines should also be made and option for farms for personal use and to sell excess back to grid.

I’m stuck on ideas for farm machinery.

A big issue that is facing agriculture is fertilisers. Not so much the use of them but the supply chain production of fertiliser from phosphorus is shocking.

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It’s literally, bullshit.

There is. Biomethane is the way to go. But it’ll never happen as idiots like an taisce will continually object to them.

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Your confusing the Greens agenda. It’s not about doing what’s best for the environment, it’s about trying to look like they are doing what’s best for the environment.

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Why not? Is it not the case that switchonh to producing more vegan and vegetarian food would produce more food and feed more people?

For a lot of the changes that need to be made we’re relying on technology that hasn’t even been invented yet.

What is the objections for?

The amount of land required to feed the population of the USA with a plant based diet would need the total landmass of the country. Not to mention that monocrop agricultural is terrible for biodiversity.

Maybe there is too many humans.

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What about mushrooms

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Massive issue is the huge increase in Dairy producers.

It was inconceivable 25 years ago that Dairy farmers would be blowing tillage farmers off rented ground which is now the new normal.

Increased cow numbers have driven up emissions with needs for larger inputs in fertilisers for overstocked farms.

The beef suckler sector is seen as the sacrificial lamb it appears as any row back on Dairy sector will see Thousands in the shit with repayments they’ll be unable to make.

The tillage sector being left to go into shite was a massive fuckup by many governments and that’s before we look back at the Sugar sector.

We can’t be whinging about importing huge amounts of rations into the country when we are exporting the vast majority of the dairy product we produce.

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Not in my back yard.

Same as what’s happening with battery banks.

Yes, should replace alcohol for a good night out

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True, but they are cutting the Amazon already to produce feed for Irish cattle, so what’s the difference?

People switching off beef and dairy will be the solution, is it too much to ask @padjo and @Mac to switch from a latte to an espresso