Thatâs mankind for you.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 760152, member: 367â]it depends.
Many Bostonians would classify this type of thing as mere collateral damage when they see similar incidents in iraq or afghanistan.[/quote]
They donât see it, pal⌠And thatâs exactly the difference.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 760152, member: 367â]it depends.
Many Bostonians would classify this type of thing as mere collateral damage when they see similar incidents in iraq or afghanistan.[/quote]
Youâre wrong. It doesnât depend.
Both are despicable.
Chris OâDowd putting Danny Baker in his place
Fuckinâ 8-year olds, Dude
:mad:
Some pretty gruesome pictures floating around, Horrific stuff.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 760152, member: 367â]it depends.
Many Bostonians would classify this type of thing as mere collateral damage when they see similar incidents in iraq or afghanistan.[/quote]
Look you Fuckwit, stop trying to attain the Forum Hardman jacket, these are the lives of ordinary good people weâre talking about. You wouldnât be as abrasive if someone faced up to you and intimated they would box the head off you. Youâre an obnoxious prick in real time.
The brother in Boston was saying earlier that its Tax day today in the US, so its probably some local nut job.
The media coverage is beyond ridiculous when compared to the +100 people who have died in bombings in Baghdad in the last week, the innumerable dead in Syria, dozens killed in Somalia over the weekend, Afghanistan etc etc etc
[quote=âFitzy, post: 760189, member: 236â]The brother in Boston was saying earlier that its Tax day today in the US, so its probably some local nut job.
The media coverage is beyond ridiculous when compared to the +100 people who have died in bombings in Baghdad in the last week, the innumerable dead in Syria, dozens killed in Somalia over the weekend, Afghanistan etc etc etc[/quote]
You are talking shit Fisty . Iâd say it is a perfectly natural reaction for people to be more shocked and moved by tragedies that take place in communities that are similar to their own in terms of enviroment, geography and culture.
For instance, Baghdad and Kabul are cities that will be totally alien to most people in IONA or Australia. When something happens there, it is happening at the other side of the world in both the physical and mental senses. When it happens at a marathon in Boston or New York, it may still be thousands of miles away physically, but in the mental sense, it is almost as close to home as Brissy or Swords
[quote=âFingalRaven, post: 760194, member: 80â]You are talking shit Fisty . Iâd say it is a perfectly natural reaction for people to be more shocked and moved by tragedies that take place in communities that are similar to their own in terms of enviroment, geography and culture.
For instance, Baghdad and Kabul are cities that will be totally alien to most people in IONA or Australia. When something happens there, it is happening at the other side of the world in both the physical and mental senses. When it happens at a marathon in Boston or New York, it may still be thousands of miles away physically, but in the mental sense, it is almost as close to home as Brissy or Swords[/quote]
There is truth in what you;re saying fingal but that gowl fitzy is right. It is a disgrace the saturation media coverage about this Boston incident. Life is life wherever it is. I donât value the life of some yank inbred mongrel over an Iraqi or Afghani person . If you do that could be a problem for us.
[quote=âFingalRaven, post: 760194, member: 80â]You are talking shit Fisty . Iâd say it is a perfectly natural reaction for people to be more shocked and moved by tragedies that take place in communities that are similar to their own in terms of enviroment, geography and culture.
For instance, Baghdad and Kabul are cities that will be totally alien to most people in IONA or Australia. When something happens there, it is happening at the other side of the world in both the physical and mental senses. When it happens at a marathon in Boston or New York, it may still be thousands of miles away physically, but in the mental sense, it is almost as close to home as Brissy or Swords[/quote]
Bollocks.
If Baghdad and Kabul are so alien to western society, why do we send hundreds of thousands of troops and trillions in hardware to blow the shit out of them when we canât get our oil? Its pure hypocrisy and shows how insecure the western world is. Look at us, we suffer too.
Of course Iâm sorry for anyone killed or injured (yes croppy boy and the rest, Iâm an enemy of freedom yadda yadda yadda) but the completely overblown, unproportional response sickens my shit sometimes. This is more than likely some fucking american nut job pissed off about having to pay taxes to a black president or having problems buying 10000 rounds of ammo.
[quote=âFitzy, post: 760201, member: 236â]Bollocks.
If Baghdad and Kabul are so alien to western society, why do we send hundreds of thousands of troops and trillions in hardware to blow the shit out of them when we canât get our oil? Its pure hypocrisy and shows how insecure the western world is. Look at us, we suffer too.
Of course Iâm sorry for anyone killed or injured (yes croppy boy and the rest, Iâm an enemy of freedom yadda yadda yadda) but the completely overblown, unproportional response sickens my shit sometimes. This is more than likely some fucking american nut job pissed off about having to pay taxes to a black president or having problems buying 10000 rounds of ammo.[/quote]
its because they are alien to us we can send the troops there
[quote=âFitzy, post: 760201, member: 236â]Bollocks.
If Baghdad and Kabul are so alien to western society, why do we send hundreds of thousands of troops and trillions in hardware to blow the shit out of them when we canât get our oil? Its pure hypocrisy and shows how insecure the western world is. Look at us, we suffer too.
Of course Iâm sorry for anyone killed or injured (yes croppy boy and the rest, Iâm an enemy of freedom yadda yadda yadda) but the completely overblown, unproportional response sickens my shit sometimes. This is more than likely some fucking american nut job pissed off about having to pay taxes to a black president or having problems buying 10000 rounds of ammo.[/quote]
Boston is not a war zone, Iraq is. Therefore a bomb exploding and killing charity runners and spectators is naturally going to get more coverage.
And thatâs but even taking into account the links a Europe has with the Eastern seaboard of the USA (diaspora, etc.) & the fact that the media outlets you follow the news on find it more commercially viable to cover these events. If you donât like youâll find coverage of events in the a Stand/Gulf with a quick a Google search.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 760132, member: 273â]You do know there is no such thing as Al Queda ya? Itâs pretty much accepted and admitted the Yanks made the name up.
Agree it sounds somewhat small time, local nut case type of shit. Some lunatic fucked over by the financial crisis or something. Never the less, the troops need a new game, it must be Iran. They have been doing everything asked of them, AI something has to be used to nuke them. Chance to show the Noreans what happens when you fuck with uncle sam too.[/quote]
Another cracker Kev. That theory right there is pretty much accepted alright. Poor Robert Fisk must feel an awful idiot for writing his 1000 page book about them.
The 8 year-old boy who was killed. His father managed to carry his daughter out of the bomb site and put her down on the ground to go get back his son, and only then realised she was missing a leg. He went back to where they were and crawled around on his hands and knees frantically searching for her missing leg.
His wife is also in surgery now.
Harrowing.
Isnât there a big vote on gun control coming up?
After yesterday awful events, the American people will need their guns now, more than ever.
thatâs exactly my point you simpleton
The people killed in Boston are ordinary people like those who are maimed by acts of war and terrorism every day in various locations all over the world, they are no different to some homeless kid in Baghad who took shrapnel in the head a few years back from a US mortar strike and also is dead.
People like you who choose to call these acts collateral damage , now you have taken a disgusting moral high ground and have tried to decide that the life of a kid in Boston is more valuable than some kid in Iraq, well its not, they were both in the wrong place at the wrong time and ended up dead., Yes its very sad for the families involved but save me the double standards that i suppose are a a consequence of that catholic upbringing that was belted into you and that you belted into to yours over the yearsâŚ
FAO Rocko,
Robert Fisk is a joke, He is the poster boy of bleeding heart liberals and greenpeace types who have no clue what is happening in the world and the senstaionalist, anti western rhetoric he puts together is as bad as anything the likes of Fox run with from the opposite end of the spectrum
had a couple of friends who were partaking in the marathon. luckily they had finished about an hour beforehand. city is pretty much in lockdown now. mobile netweorks were cut off after it and only back working later in the day.
horrible thing to do the way it was done. pretty much targetted casual runners and those running for charity.
This would certainly seem to be a local nut job as opposed to international terrorism. The devices sound like they were pretty crude.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 760227, member: 367â]thatâs exactly my point you simpleton
The people killed in Boston are ordinary people like those who are maimed by acts of war and terrorism every day in various locations all over the world, they are no different to some homeless kid in Baghad who took shrapnel in the head a few years back from a US mortar strike and also is dead.
People like you who choose to call these acts collateral damage , now you have taken a disgusting moral high ground and have tried to decide that the life of a kid in Boston is more valuable than some kid in Iraq, well its not, they were both in the wrong place at the wrong time and ended up dead., Yes its very sad for the families involved but save me the double standards that i suppose are a a consequence of that catholic upbringing that was belted into you and that you belted into to yours over the yearsâŚ
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Good point mickee - Robert Fisk-like in its contextualisation