Am I right in thinking this could lead to widespread appealing of convictions if detainees had calls to their solicitors recorded?
Can someone who knows about this sort of thing (ie, NOT holey) shed some light on this?
Edit The Ulterior Motive has raised this point
GSOC report from last year mentioned it but seems nobody picked up on it
During the course of the trial the lawfulness or otherwise of the Garda SĆochĆ”na at Waterford Garda Station recording incoming and outgoing calls on their public lines, and the admission of the evidence obtained during the use of such practices became the subject of protracted legal argument. On the 29th of January 2010, shortly after the arrest of Mr Holness, there was telephone communication between certain of the accused. These calls were recorded on the Garda SĆochĆ”na recording system and a recording was provided to GSOC. This recording was offered in evidence by the DPP. Objections were raised by the Defence. The court held that the practice engaged in by the gardaĆ at Waterford Garda Station of recording all incoming and outgoing calls on a particular phone line was in breach of the relevant statute on the recording of telephone communications, which requires that at least one of the parties to a phone call has consented to its being recorded. This requirement was deemed to have not been met on this occasion. The court ruled that the evidence obtained in those calls was inadmissible. On consideration of the ruling of the court the Garda Commissioner may wish to re-evaluate his practice regarding the recording of such calls and the consents required if it is to be permissible to use such recordings in evidence.
Leaders Questions on RTE now. Chris but Meehawl Martin is a shit speaker.
Apparently its come up before in the ian bailey case, and hes currently suing the stateā¦
Whatās your take on the whole thing, mate?
its an extraordinary scenario and a fantastic open goal missed by shatter, whose arrogance will bring him, and probably the govt, down.
this govt a mandate for change but instead its just fianna fail but worse. shatters arrogance has kept the matter in the public consciousness and endaās refusal to fire him has weakened him considrably
time to scrap the gardai and start again
Shatter just drove past me - windows down - music pumping - listening to a 1985 hip hop track - Whistle - Just Bugging (Nothing Serious)
[QUOTE=āTheUlteriorMotive, post: 921480, member: 2272ā]Shatter just drove past me - windows down - music pumping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrnIkjkooBM
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sure it wasnt this
I have a feeling some amount of scandal will come out. Thereās no way that cunt Callinan would go relatively suddenly unless there is some serious shit coming.
See the Nulty Facebook case.
Anyone hear the clip of Kenny earlier? Insisting that Callinan had retired and not resigned? Jesus youād think the last thing heād be doing is defending Callinan.
Maybe the calls were recorded for quality and training purposes
I see this bugging of calls was mentioned in The Morris Tribunal as far back as 2007. Thereās an Irish Times article from that time doing the rounds online this evening.
Paul Reynolds on RTE is rattled.
Reynolds going after Kenny and Shatter. Gardai want their heads in return for their leader.
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[/CODE][/QUOTE]Next resignation should be Shatter, then the Crime Correspondents who simply take the top brassās line and repeat. Iām looking at you Pauls.
ā Joan Collins T.D. (@JoanCollinsTD) March 25, 2014
This looks very ominous for Shatter and possibly the government.
Attorney General and Dept of Justice both seemed to be well aware of this. Shatter canāt keep using the āI havenāt a clue whatās going on at my place of workā defence.
[QUOTE=āRocko, post: 921592, member: 1ā]This looks very ominous for Shatter and possibly the government.
Attorney General and Dept of Justice both seemed to be well aware of this. Shatter canāt keep using the āI havenāt a clue whatās going on at my place of workā defence.[/QUOTE]
sure the GSOC report has to be submitted to good ol alan
see pg 2
http://www.gardaombudsman.ie/docs/publications/GSOC_Annual_Report_2012.pdf