Who's doing all the messing?

‘I think I’d rather be on the losing side than wake up and be Tiernan McCann’

Oisin McConville was unimpressed with the actions of the Tyrone player.

ARMAGH ALL-IRELAND winner Oisin McConville has delivered a hard-hitting critique of Tyrone’s Tiernan McCann following his controversial dive on Saturday in Croke Park.
The Tyrone player came under fire for his dive after Monaghan’s Darren Hughes ruffled his hair in the All-Ireland quarter-final tie.
McConville was highly critical of McCann’s actions when speaking on today’s Second Captains podcast.
“There are two things that are not acceptable in Gaelic football, spitting on somebody and taking a dive like that.
“To throw yourself on the ground like that, oh my God, I don’t know how you’d wake up in the morning and how embarrassed you’d be.
“I think actually having thought about it, that I’d rather be on the losing side than wake up and be Tiernan McCann.

“That’s just above and beyond. It’s ridiculous. It’s not as bad as spitting but it’s up there.

Even one of Bombers own turning on them.

McConville still cries every night he goes to sleep at the thought of Ricey and Gormley. Time for him to build and bridge and get over. In saying that he tipped Meath, Tipp, Sligo and Monaghan to all dispose of Tyrone this year - he’s like our lucky charm.

And Paul Hearty had a right cut off Tyrone on Sunday, for the first time ever Ulster will be split about one of their own performing in Croker against the Free Staters. Says it all really.

Paddy Bradley was very complimentary about us. Tyrone stopped Hearty and McConville from winning more All Irelands, very petty from the two.

In spite of any public pronouncements to the contrary Tyrone will be embarrassed by this. It is not like cracking a lad in the jaw which you can carry off as being manly, not giving an inch. Oul lads who slate soccer players for diving and being soft, who define themselves by their toughness and see GAA that way will see this as embarrassing the jersey.

Laying down like that was weak, was a bad decision and in a camp like Tyrone that won’t sit well.

Cognitive dissonance at play in the whataboutery as they strive to reconcile the uncomfortable. Threats to fight to show they don’t normally lay down etc

@nembokid is displaying classic reactance - maybe all Nordies do because of environment up there in the past and perceived attempts to force them down a certain part.

I’m not so sure, Sean Cavanagh has been diving for years now and they don’t seem bothered by it.

Not sure it was as visible as that. Even Harte has come out and criticised the player saying he wouldn’t make same decision again which is clever phrasing in as much as it is prescriptive as well as past

Colm Copper has been diving for years.

Sweep sweep.
Muddy muddy.
Sweep sweep.

A brief observation…

I neither saw the game live on Saturday nor watched the Sunday Game.

I’ve seen clips of the McCann-Hughes incident. There’s no doubt that McCann’s actions were most unsavoury but what the fuck was with that clown Marty Duffy? He can be clearly seen in the clip standing 10 yards away and looking straight at the incident. Why was Darren Hughes sent off and for what? Why did he not take immediate action (albeit a yellow card under rule) against Tiernan McCann?

Marty Duffy may not be to blame for cynicism in football but, is it any wonder that players carry on as they do if one of the supposed top referees in the game is so incompetent as to allow such behaviour on the field? Players, by nature, will push the boundaries - it’s what they’re supposed to do. Referees have a duty to set the boundaries within the rules - Marty Duffy (not for the first time) spectacularly failed to do so.

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I’m sure you’ll remember how all the Tyrone flags went up in 2003 any time Laois scored against Armagh in the All-Ireland quarter-final.

Firstly: “a transexual from Laois and the gonk headed thug with the rapist gloves from Dublin”

  • Dude, you’ve issues, you need to talk to someone.

Secondly, as a Monaghan man who went to the game, I’d like to let off a little steam if I may:
My Granny was from Derry in the North, I had relatives living in Strabane, Co. Tyrone, I was a huge huge fan of the old Armagh teams, I always supported Tyrone when they got out of Ulster and I am an outrageous Fenian. Having made my allegiances clear I have to say that I have no respect for that current Tyrone team whatsoever and they don’t belong in the Football Championship. They belong in the ladies Championship, playing against the Cork ladies because they’re not men.
Mickey Harte is frankly just pathetic, comparing a dive to Jap Finlay hitting a good manly punch, and really we should pray for people like that.Mickey Harte is effectively just orchestrating an attack on Irish manhood. Jap Finlay hit a punch, but at least he’s got a dick. McCann and Cavanagh don’t. And they don’t belong playing a man’s sport. Even certified gold-standard cunt, Alex Ferguson, said publicly that he would talk to Ashley Young after Ashley Young started diving. And he was diving in a soccer match. Alex Ferguson ended up one of the most pitiful characters I’ve ever seen, you’d just look at him and think “Thank God I’m not Alex Ferguson”, but Mickey Harte is actually worse again.
Michael Cusack said he founded the GAA to foster a spirit of courage and manliness in Ireland after the famine. Tyrone had systematically and deliberately shat all over the organisations founding principles. I honestly believe at this stage that Sean Cavanagh will be remembered for diving more than for being a great player.
As for the sledging controversy, Tipperary hate Kilkenny with an unbelievable passion, but they’ve never accused Kilkenny of anything like that. This is a county whose captain went bitching to the media, asking people to stop picking on his corner back, just because his corner back happened to be a gay porn star. Sean Cavanagh said that he was worried that is people said to Cathal McCarron “Hey Cathal, point of fact, you’re a gay porn star. Factually speaking you suck dick for money.”, then Sean Cavanagh was worried that poor Cathal McCarron might not be able to mentally handle the pressure.
These people are just fucking pathetic. They don’t respect themselves and they’re not worthy or respect from anyone else.
I think it’s really sad that Tyrone men and Monaghan men used to be really close and really good friends, especially during the troubles when there was a lot of “joint-activities”, shall we say. But at the moment, we’ve just lost so much basic respect for them that it’s really unpleasant. Tyrone have calculated that because they’re the most shameless people in Ireland, then playing the game in a brazenly shameless fashion gives them a competitive advantage, because they can out-do anybody. They barely even bother denying that.
However, I am praying for them.

So em… thanks for listening to that.

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Tyrone people are some of the worst for the classic, hackneyed “true Gael”, anti-English soccer cliches that display all the wit and intelligence of a five year old. But their paranoid siege mentality will trump that mindset any day when one of their own behaves like “an overpaid English soccer prima donna”.

Harte’s “apology” was a classic non-apology apology, ie not an apology at all.

Hon the Tank.

“A manly punch”

As Sean Cavanagh said - that’s all you’re good for.

Sorry, one final word: Marty Duffy should never referee a top-level game again.

Thanks for the input Tank, I hope you feel a little better getting that off your chest. May you find peace.

jesus christ that’s awesome
@Sidney, is this damien richardson posting on here?

I didn’t even remember this incident @1:00. I think I must have been queueing for a pint at the time.

Nice elbow to the head from Ricey (I think) @1:04.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geOonULjuMw