McGurk: âThere was a moment when Cian Healy was like a human torpedo, when he shot across the top of a ruck and hit the French prop and knocked him out, it was just, the intensity of the thing, yet they control their tempers, which is extraordinary.â
A flying headbutt is now âcontrolling your temper.â
Can you imagine the media storm if two Ireland football internationals had spit-roasted some young one in the Shelbourne Hotel? âSoccer stars sordid sex orgy shameâ the headlines would scream. Theyâd have been vilified and used as an example of the lack of decency and morals in the sport. âTerrible role models, too much money, spoilt, pampered etcâ. The rugby lads do exactly that and itâs quietly brushed under the carpet after a week or two. (couldnât name the players for legal reasons of course) :rolleyes:
Never, ever is there any remote criticism of the rugby players when they lose or play badly. GAA lads get slaughtered in the media after championship defeats, the soccer lads get slaughtered when beaten by incredible teams like Spain or Germant but God forbid fucking Paulie, DâArce or the lads would be criticised for fucking away a 21 point lead against New Zealand or conceding a try in the last second when the winning post was in sight. No, weâll focus on the âfronting upâ, the manliness, the physicality and the hilarious clips on joe.ie and balls.ie that show just what great lads Jordi Murphy, Devin âDevoâ Toner and proud Irish man Richie Strauss are.
And weâll have more of it in the next few weeks with the return of that cunting Heineken Cup (alcohol sponsorship is despicable when it involves GAA or football but perfectly acceptable when it comes to the sport of Davy Tweed or Eddie Halvey.)
[QUOTE=âfarmerinthecity, post: 919277, member: 24â]The whole Ireland verus England in Croke Park really grated me.
The day we grew up as a nation.
âGrew up?â What does that mean?
Is it suggesting the armed struggle against Britain was something we needed to âgrow upâ from?
Of course it could only happen with rugby, the sport where you must call the referee Sir.
Some âsoccer scumbagsâ attempted to boo God Save The Queen but we soon shut them up. I mean soldiers acting in the name of that Queen/King only murdered civilians playing football on this very pitch. Soldiers acting to the word of the National Anthem that we are politely observing (maybe even humming along to - itâs a good tune). Not to mention what happened in the six counties.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=âTabby, post: 919232, member: 2142â]Thatâs top class stuff in fairness very well written too.
Only bit that stands out as dead wrong is the bit about âliving in dublinâ. I would actually say that rugby is much less popular in working class dublin than the GAA. Itâs virtually non existent in a playing as well as supporting sense in these massively populated areas. Thereâs a much bigger casual interest in rugby in country areas than their is in working class dublin. The vast majority of people there donât even pretend to like it. Iâd say zero kids in a primary school in cabra or crumlin would have heard of Jamie heaslip or the likes.[/QUOTE]
Thatâs a fair point about Dublin. I donât even live in Dublin per se so not sure why I wrote that. Working in Dublin would have been more accurate. But I agree itâs a greater problem in certain areas.
If you work in any kind of office in Dublin then talk of rugby is simply unavoidable. I would imagine rugby talk is fairly limited on construction sites. The same way it is probably fairly limited in the pubs of Cabra, Ballymun, Finglas, etc.
I was in the Dublin airport bar for about 10 minutes while the Ireland France game was on Saturday. It was fairly empty but there was about 4 middle aged true blue Dubâs supping pints with their back turned to the tv. There were more females watching the game in the bar than men. Completely unrelated, but Matt Holland was actually one of the blokes watching the game*
*I assume he was doing punditry for Setanta that afternoon.
As I listen to RTE Radioâs âDrivetimeâ, the captain of the UL University rugby team, no less, is emerging as the hero who found a wandering two-year old on the main Limerick-Dublin road.
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[]Fucking arsholes that play it
[]The arseholes that follow it putting these privately schooled untatented dickheads on a pedestal
[]The bubble that the general public lives in this country with regards to the complete and utter lack of skill required and practical sense to the rules of the game itself
[]Itâs fucking shame at Irish nationalism
[*]The constant exposure and hyping of a minority support and a team that has achieved relatively fuck all considering the constraints
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There are lots of things I dislike but in Oireland it is impossible to escape this being shoved in your face every day and whatâs worse is the way you are made feel like a social pariah for not indulging in this nonsense. Ireland needs someone of great public respect and fame to come out and bash this joke of a sport.
[QUOTE=âIl Bomber Destro, post: 919306, member: 2533â]Why do I hate rugby?
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[]Fucking arsholes that play it
[]The arseholes that follow it putting these privately schooled untatented dickheads on a pedestal
[]The bubble that the general public lives in this country with regards to the complete and utter lack of skill required and practical sense to the rules of the game itself
[]Itâs fucking shame at Irish nationalism
[*]The constant exposure and hyping of a minority support and a team that has achieved relatively fuck all considering the constraints
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There are lots of things I dislike but in Oireland it is impossible to escape this being shoved in your face every day and whatâs worse is the way you are made feel like a social pariah for not indulging in this nonsense. Ireland needs someone of great public respect and fame to come out and bash this joke of a sport.[/QUOTE]
I donât understand the âsocial climbingâ criticism of rugby I have to say. Thereâs much more of the opposite goes on in Ireland I reckon. Inverted snobbery and hatred of private schoolboys etc. itâs more like Munster trying to make out theyâre salt of the earth and eulogising of the likes of Sean o Brien.
[QUOTE=âWatch The Break, post: 919274, member: 260â]While I think what Rocko says here is true in this instance, a team can be shit at a sport for lots of reasons. Ireland were/are equally rubbish at soccer and the bandwagon that gathers whenever thereâs a sniff of success is rarely subjected to the same level of opprobrium.
I think the elitism thing is at the heart of the whole issue though. It has always primarily been the posh folkâs sport, and now it feels a little like the masses are grovelling at the feet of their social betters when in truth they have no real attachment to the sport whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
In relative terms Ireland are much better at football, even now, than West Britland are at rugby.
[QUOTE=âTabby, post: 919303, member: 2142â]Tom mcGurk is by far the biggest cunt for this rugby love in shit.
Thereâs a serious amount of hyperbole around GAA too though Iâd say those of us not brought up with it could point out.[/QUOTE]
There is some fawning over GAA in the media (the nostalgia of the Munster hurling final, Dublin v Kerry in football etc can be a bit nauseating at times) but itâs nowhere near the level of hyperbole of rugby. The media donât drool over these amazing, colourful, whacky GAA fans when they travel to Pairc Ui Chaoimh, Thurles, Portlaoise every summer as happens every time one of the rugby franchises travel to some remote, impossible to reach destination like Gloucester or the south of France.
GAA has over 125 years of tradition, rugby - to all intents and purposes - started in Ireland around the turn of the century when they started winning after decades of getting the shit beaten out of them. The airbrushing of history to make Leinster-Munster some age old rivalry is laughable - I can remember those games attracting a couple of hundred people to Dooradoyle not so long ago.
Canât wait to see them fall flat on their faces at the world cup next year to be honest.