The only lines those boys were doing were the braids in each otherâs hair
You never recovered from Facehop did you? 
Agree a bit with @Rockoâs article but at the end of it all, no-one is forcing you to listen to all the radio programmes or read all the papers. Radio programmes need to attract listeners and papers need to sell so theyâll latch onto rugby as it has mass appeal for a lot of the reasons already described. Whatâs surprising is how many of the posters here seem to be surprised at what media outlets do.
[QUOTE=âMac, post: 919399, member: 109â]You never recovered from Facehop did you?
Agree a bit with @Rockoâs article but at the end of it all, no-one is forcing you to listen to all the radio programmes or read all the papers. Radio programmes need to attract listeners and papers need to sell so theyâll latch onto rugby as it has mass appeal for a lot of the reasons already described. Whatâs surprising is how many of the posters here seem to be surprised at what media outlets do.[/QUOTE]
Whatâs to latch onto when they are losing, as they so regularly do?
[QUOTE=âMac, post: 919399, member: 109â]You never recovered from Facehop did you?
Agree a bit with @Rockoâs article but at the end of it all, no-one is forcing you to listen to all the radio programmes or read all the papers. Radio programmes need to attract listeners and papers need to sell so theyâll latch onto rugby as it has mass appeal for a lot of the reasons already described. Whatâs surprising is how many of the posters here seem to be surprised at what media outlets do.[/QUOTE]
They could all chose to switch channels when the rugby is on, but they donât. Which contributes to the ratings success of the shows and helps sustain the thing they allege to hate.
An incredible amount of weirdos on here who profess to despise rugby but watch absolutely every game and every show about it.
Because for some reason, unlike Soccer, when the Rugby team are pants, they still sell out stadia for 6 nations. And when Ireland are losing, the likes of Leinster and Munster are still winning Heineken Cup games. The general public are typically quite stupid and like to be told what to do. Rugby is a nice inoffensive thing to follow with no scumbag supporter element so appeals to men, women and children. The top brass in various media outlets will know this and ensure to keep it front of mind.
Its simple business.
[QUOTE=âSandymount Red, post: 919403, member: 1074â]They could all chose to switch channels when the rugby is on, but they donât. Which contributes to the ratings success of the shows and helps sustain the thing they allege to hate.
An incredible amount of weirdos on here who profess to despise rugby but watch absolutely every game and every show about it.[/QUOTE]
If thereâs fuck else on Iâd watch international rugby but Iâd just as easily not. I watched all of 20 mins of the French game last week. The All Blacks are generally worth a watch until they put a team away.
[QUOTE=âMac, post: 919399, member: 109â]You never recovered from Facehop did you?
Agree a bit with @Rockoâs article but at the end of it all, no-one is forcing you to listen to all the radio programmes or read all the papers. Radio programmes need to attract listeners and papers need to sell so theyâll latch onto rugby as it has mass appeal for a lot of the reasons already described. Whatâs surprising is how many of the posters here seem to be surprised at what media outlets do.[/QUOTE]
No. Wet the bed.
[QUOTE=âMac, post: 919399, member: 109â]You never recovered from Facehop did you?
Agree a bit with @Rockoâs article but at the end of it all, no-one is forcing you to listen to all the radio programmes or read all the papers. Radio programmes need to attract listeners and papers need to sell so theyâll latch onto rugby as it has mass appeal for a lot of the reasons already described. Whatâs surprising is how many of the posters here seem to be surprised at what media outlets do.[/QUOTE]
By the way Iâve read this a few times over and its still bollocksâŚ?..?
[QUOTE=âSandymount Red, post: 919403, member: 1074â]They could all chose to switch channels when the rugby is on, but they donât. Which contributes to the ratings success of the shows and helps sustain the thing they allege to hate.
An incredible amount of weirdos on here who profess to despise rugby but watch absolutely every game and every show about it.[/QUOTE]
I prefer âcreepâ, mate.
This opening post and your rant at RTE have to be sent somewhere, I said it before but they should be sent to the Irish Times letters page signed Rocko at TFK.
[QUOTE=âPhil Leotardo, post: 919261, member: 197â]
I remember myself and @Mark Renton were at a freindâs party a few years ago and we had a debate with this girl about football being more skilful than rugby. She was one of these ultra posh private school girls who spoke in an english accent (even though she was born and bred in Ireland). She was actually perplexed and annoyed with myself and Mark that we could even suggest football was a more skilful game than rugby. Again, youâd wonder how much exposure to football she has had in her lifetime and therefore there is a pure ignorance. FFS, even most rugby people who donât like football will admit that football is a more skilful game.[/QUOTE]
Did Renton ride her anyway?
I have grown better at avoiding the hype over the last few years. As a rule, I donât go anywhere near Irish sports media on the week of Cheltenham and the conclusion of the Six Nations in case I explode with rage. The media saturation over the last couple of weeks has been overwhelming though. You canât avoid it on the radio anyway.
Iâve found over the last few years that to the limited extent that I care, I instinctively want Ireland to lose. This is a reaction to years of accumulated bullshit and particularly the bashing of soccer that goes with it, though I know GAA people are just as capable of that. Itâs not a position that Iâm particularly comfortable with though. I used to watch the Five Nations game as a kid, and while I used to be violently seething that Sports Stadiumâs usual Saturday coverage of soccer was shelved (there always seemed to be a good FA Cup game on that we were missing), I used to cheer for Ireland, even though they seemed to lose every game. I never properly gave a shit about it though, and my support certainly grew more passive as I got older and watched fewer of the games, but I still would have always wanted Ireland to win. Iâm not sure when it changed, itâs only in the last few years, but I find that I instinctively want to avoid the general fawning (in media and South Dublin office in which I work) so hope they lose. Iâd like to be able to move past this soon, not because I want to pretend to jump on a bandwagon that I donât care about, but because I know a lot of decent people that are from genuine rugby backgrounds that obviously care a lot about it, and I feel like a bit of an arsehole for begrudging them the joy they get from it.
Not really sure if there is a point to any of the above. For what itâs worth, I have absolutely no qualms about having a little snigger when I hear Munster have lost a game.
[QUOTE=âbraz83, post: 919441, member: 390â] I know a lot of decent people that are from genuine rugby backgrounds
.[/QUOTE]
It just occurred to me there that whilst I know a lot of decent people that are from genuine GAA backgrounds, a lot of decent people that are from genuine soccer backgrounds, a lot of decent people that are from genuine greyhound racing backgrounds and a lot of other decent people that are from genuine backgrounds of other sports such as tennis and darts; I donât know a single decent person that is from a genuine rugby background.
Ah I do. As @dancarter says, outside South Dublin, a lot of ordinary decent folk do play rugby at club level alright.
Wasnât doubting you, braz. I grew up in South Dublin.
[QUOTE=âbraz83, post: 919441, member: 390â]I have grown better at avoiding the hype over the last few years. As a rule, I donât go anywhere near Irish sports media on the week of Cheltenham and the conclusion of the Six Nations in case I explode with rage. The media saturation over the last couple of weeks has been overwhelming though. You canât avoid it on the radio anyway.
Iâve found over the last few years that to the limited extent that I care, I instinctively want Ireland to lose. This is a reaction to years of accumulated bullshit and particularly the bashing of soccer that goes with it, though I know GAA people are just as capable of that. Itâs not a position that Iâm particularly comfortable with though. I used to watch the Five Nations game as a kid, and while I used to be violently seething that Sports Stadiumâs usual Saturday coverage of soccer was shelved (there always seemed to be a good FA Cup game on that we were missing), I used to cheer for Ireland, even though they seemed to lose every game. I never properly gave a shit about it though, and my support certainly grew more passive as I got older and watched fewer of the games, but I still would have always wanted Ireland to win. Iâm not sure when it changed, itâs only in the last few years, but I find that I instinctively want to avoid the general fawning (in media and South Dublin office in which I work) so hope they lose. Iâd like to be able to move past this soon, not because I want to pretend to jump on a bandwagon that I donât care about, but because I know a lot of decent people that are from genuine rugby backgrounds that obviously care a lot about it, and I feel like a bit of an arsehole for begrudging them the joy they get from it.
Not really sure if there is a point to any of the above. For what itâs worth, I have absolutely no qualms about having a little snigger when I hear Munster have lost a game.[/QUOTE]
Iâd guess most people here usually watched Irelandâs Five Nations matches as a youngster. Can anybody remember a match where they were really disappointed they lost? It was almost a matter of routine. I remember being reasonably excited when they beat England in 1993 and 1994, but I was never disappointed to any great extent when they lost, as they did most of the time. It was something that would be on for five Saturday afternoons from January to March and that would be it for the year.
I was actually at the match against France in 1999 (the last of the five Irish international rugby matches I ever attended - they lost all five) and remember having a chuckle to myself afterwards at how shit they were. But I wasnât in any way disappointed.
The rugby team have never given me a reason to be really disappointed or delighted at their results.
Perhaps because I can remember Ireland beating England in Stuttgart, the 1990 World Cup and Ireland beating Italy in 1994, anything that the rugby team could ever do would always seem very small beer in comparison.
They just never particularly mattered.
[QUOTE=âRocko, post: 919228, member: 1â]A terrific spot on the why-while. I should get you to proof read all of my posts.
The stadium thing isnât a typo - itâs just a poorly constructed point about how rugby fanst might see a game on tv, or even in the Aviva, but will have never been to Dooradoyle or Stradbrook or to a local park to see a game.[/QUOTE]
Or the JJ McDowell Memorial Grounds
Smashing post.
[QUOTE=âSidney, post: 919450, member: 183â]Iâd guess most people here usually watched Irelandâs Five Nations matches as a youngster. Can anybody remember a match where they were really disappointed they lost? It was almost a matter of routine. I remember being reasonably excited when they beat England in 1993 and 1994, but I was never disappointed to any great extent when they lost, as they did most of the time. It was something that would be on for five Saturday afternoons from January to March and that would be it for the year.
I was actually at the match against France in 1999 (the last of the five Irish international rugby matches I ever attended - they lost all five) and remember having a chuckle to myself afterwards at how shit they were. But I wasnât in any way disappointed.
The rugby team have never given me a reason to be really disappointed or delighted at their results.
Perhaps because I can remember Ireland beating England in Stuttgart, the 1990 World Cup and Ireland beating Italy in 1994, anything that the rugby team could ever do would always seem very small beer in comparison.
They just never particularly mattered.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree with that. Iâd just like to get back to that mindset rather than instinctively hoping they lose, which I donât think is really healthy.
[QUOTE=âSidney, post: 919450, member: 183â]
They just never particularly mattered.[/QUOTE]
Then why the fuck do you watch all their games and constantly obsess over them?