My grand-uncle did not risk his life in the GPO and then translate The Soldierâs Song so a bunch of toffee-nosed west-Brit cunts could wear a green jersey and sing Irelandâs Call in Croke Park.
And speaking of Croke Park, my great-grandfather (who was also in the GPO) helped a dying man on Bloody Sunday who had managed to stagger down the canal from Croke Park after being shot by the Brits.
My own grandfather wouldnât even have the Irish Times in the house, right up to his death, due to itâs political leanings at the time.
To the best of my knowledge, rugby has never ever been discussed, except to give it a snort of derision at any family gathering Iâve ever been at.
Principles.
Some of you cunts could do with learning some.[/QUOTE]
They would have been dead proud of what you and your generation did with the quasi freedom they provided you with. Literally.
âyour generationâ? What the fuck generation do you belong to?
And, yes, I think they would be proud. Their sons, daughters, grandsons, nephews have all carried on a tradition of Irishness, in politics, sport, language and public service.Itâs vitally important to our identities and we cherish their memory and their bravery.
Iâm delivering leaflets tomorrow for my uncle who is running in the local elections. Iâm not delivering leaflets for the 6th Earl of Aldborough.
Doing my bit.
My uncle, incidentally, was happy to welcome the Queen with the proviso that she apologise to the Irish nation beforehand. Besides bombing her hotel, I donât think we can do much more.
posted this before but in interest of sharing stories
grew up in a GAA house and was lucky enough to be in Croke Park nearly every Sunday a match was on from about age 5 to late teens when I lost a bit of interest since rekindled
When Ireland played France in Croke Park - first rugby game there I brought the old man as it was a moment of history and I knew he would enjoy it - he has never been before or since to an international rugby match
He stood up and enjoyed La Marsellaise, stood and sang Amhran na bhFiann and then made a point of sitting down for Irelandâs Call as it was nobodyâs anthem - I wished I had thought of it first but I then sat down beside him - everybody else still standing
We need more people with the moral courage to point out a lot of what is banana flavoured
[QUOTE=âThrawneen, post: 919605, member: 129â]I would like to be friends with your father.
Iâm already friends with @Juhniallio 's father in law, so thereâs nothing weird about it, donât worry.[/QUOTE]
80 this year. GAA but particularly hurling to the bone. Galway man. We lived in Dublin but I remember coming home from the match and him lighting a bonfire on Galwayâs route home when they won the All Ireland in 1980. The thick black smoke that covered the road probably made driving dangerous in hindsight.
I think he did the same in 87 or 88 at which stage I was old enough to be embarrassed by him doing it. Iâd help him now I suppose.
I was gutted a couple of years ago when Galway lost to Kilkenny - at his age he doesnât have many Septembers left so would mean the world if he got to see Galway win another Liam McCarthy - would be a lovely memory for myself as well
I was gutted a couple of years ago when Galway lost to Kilkenny - at his age he doesnât have many Septembers left so would mean the world if he got to see Galway win another Liam McCarthy - would be a lovely memory for myself as well[/QUOTE]
Ok, well your dad can fuck off so. My dad has seen one AI, in 1973, when he was 19.
And, yes, I think they would be proud. Their sons, daughters, grandsons, nephews have all carried on a tradition of Irishness, in politics, sport, language and public service.Itâs vitally important to our identities and we cherish their memory and their bravery.
.[/QUOTE]
Iâm all for a bit of craic but hold on. The only tradition of irishness youâve ever described in public service was getting boozed up on the job.
My grand-uncle did not risk his life in the GPO and then translate The Soldierâs Song so a bunch of toffee-nosed west-Brit cunts could wear a green jersey and sing Irelandâs Call in Croke Park.
And speaking of Croke Park, my great-grandfather (who was also in the GPO) helped a dying man on Bloody Sunday who had managed to stagger down the canal from Croke Park after being shot by the Brits.
My own grandfather wouldnât even have the Irish Times in the house, right up to his death, due to itâs political leanings at the time.
To the best of my knowledge, rugby has never ever been discussed, except to give it a snort of derision at any family gathering Iâve ever been at.
Principles.
Some of you cunts could do with learning some.[/QUOTE]
Your grand uncle was a stupid bastard off the fucking scale and if he was standing in front of me now Iâd kick the living heart clean out of him.
You make it sound like those FUCKING IDIOTS who took over the GPO were heroes or something. By holding up in the GPO they made it a target and a target it was burning to the ground, destroying the records of the people of Ireland going back millennia. FUCKING RECKLESS DUMB BASTARDS!
It boils my blood to think that those who decided to hold out in the GPO are heralded as some sort of heroes.
My grand-uncle did not risk his life in the GPO and then translate The Soldierâs Song so a bunch of toffee-nosed west-Brit cunts could wear a green jersey and sing Irelandâs Call in Croke Park.
And speaking of Croke Park, my great-grandfather (who was also in the GPO) helped a dying man on Bloody Sunday who had managed to stagger down the canal from Croke Park after being shot by the Brits.
My own grandfather wouldnât even have the Irish Times in the house, right up to his death, due to itâs political leanings at the time.
To the best of my knowledge, rugby has never ever been discussed, except to give it a snort of derision at any family gathering Iâve ever been at.
Principles.
Some of you cunts could do with learning some.[/QUOTE]
And my dads cousin was under death sentence in 1916 but the british commander of the barracks where he was being held (not from the gpo), found ways of postponing the execution until he was freed. Bad weather, apparently was used more than once. I would argue that he fought out of his own choice. It has no reflection on me though I am very proud of the fact.
What they helped to achieve was our freedom to choose whether to play rugby or not. Whether to follow colonial past times or not. I doubt many of them would have been exercised by this sort of thing at all. In fact, I suspect many of them would have been proud of the rugby team, and certainly proud of Brian o Driscoll who is an icon and a gent, and as hard as fucking nails.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 919604, member: 2272â]posted this before but in interest of sharing stories
grew up in a GAA house and was lucky enough to be in Croke Park nearly every Sunday a match was on from about age 5 to late teens when I lost a bit of interest since rekindled
When Ireland played France in Croke Park - first rugby game there I brought the old man as it was a moment of history and I knew he would enjoy it - he has never been before or since to an international rugby match
He stood up and enjoyed La Marsellaise, stood and sang Amhran na bhFiann and then made a point of sitting down for Irelandâs Call as it was nobodyâs anthem - I wished I had thought of it first but I then sat down beside him - everybody else still standing
We need more people with the moral courage to point out a lot of what is banana flavoured[/QUOTE]
That is his right. People here seem to aspire to a united ireland. In truth, in fantasy it would be nice, but I donât really care that much one way or the other. I am happy to let the NI democratic mandate take its course and despise all the violence and thuggery on both sides. As things stand, an all Ireland rugby team is a good thing. The Nordies of the other ilk are happy to respect our anthem. The least we can do is respect a song which hopes to give common ground. I wouldnât stand nor would I make a point of sitting down. If everyone else was standing up, then I would to so I could keep an eye on things.
[QUOTE=âPeter G, post: 919614, member: 1758â]Your grand uncle was a stupid bastard off the fucking scale and if he was standing in front of me now Iâd kick the living heart clean out of him.
You make it sound like those FUCKING IDIOTS who took over the GPO were heroes or something. By holding up in the GPO they made it a target and a target it was burning to the ground, destroying the records of the people of Ireland going back millennia. FUCKING RECKLESS DUMB BASTARDS!
It boils my blood to think that those who decided to hold out in the GPO are heralded as some sort of heroes.[/QUOTE]
It appears the truth of this post is lost on you idiots.
[QUOTE=âThrawneen, post: 919603, member: 129â]âyour generationâ? What the fuck generation do you belong to?
And, yes, I think they would be proud. Their sons, daughters, grandsons, nephews have all carried on a tradition of Irishness, in politics, sport, language and public service.Itâs vitally important to our identities and we cherish their memory and their bravery.
Iâm delivering leaflets tomorrow for my uncle who is running in the local elections. Iâm not delivering leaflets for the 6th Earl of Aldborough.
Doing my bit.
My uncle, incidentally, was happy to welcome the Queen with the proviso that she apologise to the Irish nation beforehand. Besides bombing her hotel, I donât think we can do much more.
So, fuck you.[/QUOTE]
Youâre a posh private schoolboy from dalkey give us a fucking break.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 919607, member: 2272â]80 this year. GAA but particularly hurling to the bone. Galway man. We lived in Dublin but I remember coming home from the match and him lighting a bonfire on Galwayâs route home when they won the All Ireland in 1980. The thick black smoke that covered the road probably made driving dangerous in hindsight.
I think he did the same in 87 or 88 at which stage I was old enough to be embarrassed by him doing it. Iâd help him now I suppose.
I was gutted a couple of years ago when Galway lost to Kilkenny - at his age he doesnât have many Septembers left so would mean the world if he got to see Galway win another Liam McCarthy - would be a lovely memory for myself as well[/QUOTE]
Stuff your father and his bonfires and his intense desire to see his county win an All-Ireland, mate.
The greatest odyessy ever endured by supporters of an Irish team are the six years (in many cases less, but that made their longing more concentrated and intense) that people who had no previous interest in rugby waited for the Heineken Cup to come home to Munster.
[QUOTE=âSidney, post: 919643, member: 183â]Stuff your father and his bonfires and his intense desire to see his county win an All-Ireland, mate.
The greatest odyessy ever endured by supporters of an Irish team are the six years (in many cases less, but that made their longing more concentrated and intense) that people who had no previous interest in rugby waited for the Heineken Cup to come home to Munster.
Those people know real hunger.[/QUOTE]
A hunger made all the more desperate by Neil Backâs heinous cheating at that fateful scrum.
