Wimbledon 2015

The screeching out of the centre court crowd when thereā€™s an extended rally is extremely irritating

Nadal in big bother now.

Nadal is done here. Heā€™s just so flat.

Nadal gone again in the first week of Wimbledon. Brown was unreal.

Scale of the Nadal decline is such that it doesnā€™t register as that big a surprise.

Great to see some old fashioned serve and volley.

Nadal canā€™t cut it on the biggest stage of all, it is as simple as that

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ0n3itoII

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Is Nadalā€™s decline coming quicker than Federer?

Depends on how you classify decline. Federer has declined somewhat from winning 12 Grand Slams out of the 18 up to his win at the 2010 Australian Open. If he doesnā€™t lift the trophy on July 12, heā€™ll have only won 1 out of the 18 Grand Slams since Australia 2010.

Federer (apart from some back trouble) has had a largely injury free career and still has the game to overcome almost all bar the very top players, well into his 30ā€™s. The attritional nature of Nadalā€™s game is taking its toll on him now. Winning the French up until this year somewhat masked the fact that his game has been in decline for a few years now. His confidence has been absolutely shot the last 12 months and heā€™s liable to lose to just about anyone he faces.

I agree with that. I know Federer can be beaten especially after he plays a 5 set match the previous match. In saying that he will usually go into the second week in the majors.

Nadal on the other hand just seems shot. Mcenroe was saying on commentary that he expects nadal to come back and win some more majors. I just canā€™t see it at the moment. There is a bit of a break now before the hard court season begins so it will interesting to see what form Nadal is in coming into that part of the season. If he is still in the same form as he is now I canā€™t see him recovering from it for next season.

Agree

Draw taking shape now that weā€™re down to 32.

Novak.Djokovic [1] ā€“v- Bernard Tomic [27]
Leonardo Mayer ā€“v- Kevin Anderson [14]
Marin Cilic [9] ā€“v- John Isner [17]
Denis Kudla ā€“v- Santiago Giraldo

Stan Wawrinka [4] ā€“v- Fernando Verdasco
Marcos Baghdatis ā€“v- David Goffin [16]
Grigor Dimitrov [11] ā€“v- Richard Gasquet [21]
Nick Kyrgios [26] ā€“v- Milos Raonic [7]


James Ward ā€“v- Vasek Pospisil
Viktor Troicki [22] ā€“v- Dustin Brown
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga [13] ā€“v- Ivo Karlovic [23]
Andreas Seppi [25] ā€“v- Andy Murray [3]

Tomas Berdych [6] ā€“v- Pablo Andujar
Gael Monfils [18] ā€“v- Gilles Simon [12]
Nikoloz Basilashvili ā€“v- Roberto Bautista Agut [20]
Sam Groth ā€“v- Roger Federer [2]

I think the reason McEnroe said that is because Nadalā€™s problem right now seems to be psychological. I always thought when he would go it would be when his body gives out on him but itā€™s his tennis that is the problem now. He is missing shots he would never miss, the greatest forehand in the game has disappeared, the amount of simple unforced errors he has made the past 6 months is startling.

At his age and the problems heā€™s had with injuries over the years make it unlikely he can return to the top but the one thing to cling onto is that what we have seen over the past 6 months is far removed from the what we saw of Nadal throughout his career. It looks to be confidence more than anything else, he doesnā€™t seem to be worse off physically than say two years ago.

Heā€™s the greatest tennis player Iā€™ve ever seen. The peopleā€™s champion.

Sad to see the greatest tennis player Iā€™ve seen be in such decline

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Yes, but the psychological problems are most likely linked to the body failing. The biggest single problem in his game is his first serve. Its difficult to see him get it together again. In tennis terms 29, when youā€™ve been more or less at the top since 19 is old.

Serving has always been a weakness, itā€™s became even more of an issue now however. Itā€™s the one part of his game where he couldnā€™t match his competitors.

Federer has been in decline for quite a while now

Nadal is the greatest, Federer had a headstart in a weaker era.

Federerā€™s classy lob:

https://vine.co/v/e15D76aJBWH

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Can people please stop comparing the Greatest with the arse picker

Itā€™s like comparing Messi with somebody like Totti ffs sake

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