Woeful Journalism

I’m looking forward to Runt posting tomorrow morning that Davy Fitz is in line for the Clare job.

:rolleyes:

Or you posting that David Norris secured to Dublin City Council Nomination

I posted that yesterday. Why would I post it again tomorrow?

Well you posted about him getting the waterford nomination 3 hours after it was already posted, so God knows what you’re liable to post.

You might be so kind as to find me the post from 3 hours before my own when you have a few mins.

3 hours might not be exact, but there was an earlier post which I will produce shortly.
Keep your eyes peeled on the presidential election thread

has this been mentioned before

his article from a few weeks ago

& from wikipedia
Military experts extolled the Maginot Line as a work of genius, believing it would prevent any further invasions from the east (notably, from Germany). The fortification system successfully dissuaded a direct attack. It was strategically ineffective, as the Germans indeed invaded Belgium, defeated the French army, flanked the Maginot Line, through the Ardennes forest and via the Low countries, completely sweeping by the line and conquering France in days.[1] As such, the Maginot Line has come to mean a strategy or object that people put hope into but fails miserably. It is also the best known symbol of the adage that “generals always fight the last war, especially if they have won it”.[2]

I mentioned the Daily Mail breaking the Amanda Knox guilty story over on the Amanda Knox thread but it’s worth recording here. A couple of outlets got caught out by the judge saying she was guilty of slander before declaring her not guilty of murder but none went to the ridiculous lengths the Mail did in inventing a series of events.

I’m probably hugely naive to be shocked by something like this. You expect tabloids to invent stories but it’s quite extraordinary to have a whole host of reactions and quotes lined up and ready to go that they published. Quotes and reactions that were obviously entirely invented.

She was “sobbing uncontrollably” was obviously a decent enough guess if she’d been found guilty. Meredith’s family glancing over at her “just once” is a real touch of class and intrigue. What were they thinking that one time? The suicide watch piece is obviously a good scandalous piece to end on though I didn’t expect the Mail to come out with "sad two young people would be spending years in jail’.

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As Knox realized the enormity of what judge Hellman was saying she sank into her chair sobbing uncontrollably while her family and friends hugged each other in tears.[/size][/font]
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A few feet away Meredith’s mother Arline, her sister Stephanie and brother Lyle, who had flown in especially for the verdict remained expressionless, staring straight ahead, glancing over just once at the distraught Knox family.[/size][/font]
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Prosecutors were delighted with the verdict and said that ‘justice has been done’ although they said on a ‘human factor it was sad two young people would be spending years in jail’.[/size][/font]
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Following the verdict Knox and Sollecito were taken out of court escorted by prison guards and into a waiting van which took her back to her cell at Capanne jail near Perugia and him to Terni jail, 60 miles away.[/size][/font]
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Both will be put on a suicide watch for the next few days as psychological assessments are made on each of them but this is usual practice for long term prisoners.”[/size][/font]

That thing about glancing over just once is fucking brilliant. I assume those quotes from the prosecutors were given to them in advance to use in the event of a conviction though?? Making up a direct quote would be very dodgy.

That’s outrageous. I mean they’ve made up a load of fake quotes from the “prosecutors”.

I think the whole thing is made up.

Makes sense…

Irish Examiner investigating plagiarism charge against weekly columnist

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A Steven King column from yesterday’s Irish Examiner is among those alleged to include plagiarised content.
THE IRISH EXAMINER says it is investigating substantial allegations of plagiarism against one of its columnists.
Steven King, who writes about international affairs in a weekly column for the newspaper, is accused of copying lengthy passages for his columns from the output of Brendan O’Neill, the editor of British-based blog Spiked.
In a tweet this morning, the newspaper’s editor Tim Vaughan said the claims were a “very serious issue” and that the newspaper was awaiting a response from King to the allegation.
Evidence of the plagiarism was uncovered by journalist Brian Whelan, whose blog this morning published examples of seven King articles which seem to rely heavily on passages taken from O’Neill’s columns.
In one case – a column published by the Examiner in July – there are at least three paragraphs which bear striking similarities to an O’Neill column from 2008.
Whelan wrote on his blog that he had been in contact with O’Neill regarding the similarities, and had been assured that King was not given permission to use passages from his work.
DIT journalism lecturer Harry Browne subsequently uncovered further examples of potential plagiarism, in King’s column published yesterday.
That column – dealing with the prospect of Barack Obama losing next year’s US election – carries similarities with pieces published on Salon.com[/url] and [url=“http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/08/10/obama-one-term-presidency/”]in Commentary Magazine.
Whelan had previously helped to uncover[/url] accusations against London Independent columnist Johann Hari, which resulted in Hari being stripped of his 2008 Orwell Prize and [url=“http://www.thejournal.ie/johann-hari-suspende-from-the-independent-176192-Jul2011/”]suspended from duty at his paper.
Hari is now on unpaid leave from the Independent.

is there something ironic about MBB posting up articles about plagerism? considering the facts he has been reporting on other various threads over the last while?

I’m pretty sure I don’t get paid for this mate.

I would to admit that I read a joke elsewhere online one time and subsequently posted it on TFK.

Apologies for any offence caused.

I wouldnt doubt that!

You’re right though,I probably should.

i like kings articles. he is unafraid to tackle taboo subjects. last year he wrote a couple of very moving pieces following the suicide of his civil partner following a bout of depression. if they want to tackle plagarism in de paper they could do a lot worse than fire finlay and terry crone who plagarise their own articles week in week out

[size=4]Meant to put this up before now. Huge, huge blunder by RTE and damages the credibility of their whole current affairs output. Whoever made the decision to air the programme should certainly get the sack. [/size]

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[size=4]Apology - Fr Kevin Reynolds[/size]

Updated: 12:40, Friday, 7 October 2011
On the evening of the 23rd May 2011, RTÉ broadcast a Prime Time Investigates programme entitled “A Mission to Prey”.

Before this broadcast Prime Time conducted an interview with Fr. Kevin Reynolds, the then parish priest at Ahascragh in Galway.

This interview took place beside the parochial house after the annual First Holy Communion Mass.

During this interview allegations were made against Fr. Reynolds. He immediately protested his innocence and denied all the allegations.

Between the interview and the broadcast, Fr. Kevin Reynolds, through his Solicitors, repeated his protestations of innocence, asked
RTÉ not to broadcast the interview and volunteered to
undergo a paternity test.

Prime Time duly broadcast the programme accusing Fr. Reynolds of raping a minor named Veneranda while he was a missionary in Kenya and fathering a child named Sheila as a result of this rape.

He was also accused of secretly providing funds to Sheila.

Both Veneranda and Sheila were interviewed in the programme to corroborate the allegations.

As a result Fr. Kevin Reynolds was obliged to stand down from ministry and was removed as the parish priest of Ahascragh. He had to leave his home and his parish.

He was compelled by the actions of RTÉ to institute High Court defamation proceedings to vindicate his good name and reputation.

RTÉ acknowledges that the material in the programme concerning Fr. Reynolds ought never to have been broadcast.

RTÉ now fully and unreservedly accepts that the allegations made by Prime Time against Fr. Kevin Reynolds are baseless, without any foundation whatever and untrue and that Fr. Reynolds is a priest of the utmost integrity who has had an unblemished 40 year career in the priesthood and who has made a valuable contribution to society in Kenya and Ireland both in education and in ministry.

RTÉ acknowledges the defamation has had a devastating effect on Fr. Kevin Reynolds, his family, his peers, his parishioners in Ahascragh, those in the diocese of Kakamega in Kenya who were aware of the allegations and all those who know him or of him.
RTÉ fully and unreservedly apologises to Fr. Kevin Reynolds for this defamation and deeply regrets the serious consequences suffered by him. He was entirely innocent of the allegations
broadcast about him.