World Cup 2018/2022 Decision

The more I hear about the Qatar bid the better it sounds. That’s starting from a position of disbelief to be fair but there are some decent points about the project. The stadia will be carbon neutral - using solar panels on the exterior to create the air conditioning. Great innovation if it works and very useful for much of Africa.

Christ, they’ll need to cover the whole country in solar panels

Negative Fran :rolleyes:

DUNGEON

Leftie.

Get a hair cut*.

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Mattingly, I thought I told you to trim those sideburns?

Some interesting posts on this on Football 365 which I’ve cobbled together here

i dont know if it has been mentioned yet in this thread, but the Qatar World Cup is going to be the most monumentally environmentally unfriendly event the world has ever seen, I reckon.

Firstly…

  • all the internal transport infrastucture needs to be built

  • aiports will be built to serve for little more than a month (all fans will arrive by plane because it is the fastest). Rail links are virtually non-existent.

  • all the stadia, hotels, training facilities need to be built. And most of the stadia will be dismantled and transported around the globe after the tournament.

  • The tournament is essentially in the desert, so all the buildings need to have air conditioning. And yes, they have said they will air condition the stadia (basically, trying to change the temp of ‘outside’

  • and to top it all…where you get people, you need water. (for drinking, for washing, for toilets). You also need it to keep all those pristine pitches green and healthy as required by FIFA.
    Well, in that part of the world, ‘desalinisation’ is one of the main ways of making clean water. Desalinisation is hugely expensive and very energy inefficient.

Everything in this list will require vast vast quantities of oil. Sure Qatar have it. But burning it will produce a giant cloud of carbon emissions. Who knows, but it could be more than just an metaphorical cloud.
How FIFA can be so unaware of the effects of all this kind of stuff is bewildering.

Qatar is already the most polluting country in the world per capita by a huge margin. They are already three times worse than the United States, six times worse than us, and so on, and this World Cup looks like being the most ludicrously wasteful event ever held. Staggeringly irresponsible (and still only one of many reasons why it’s a scandal).

They’ve actually based a lot of their bid on being “green” but it will be interesting to see just how much of this, if any, is acheived:

http://www.buildgreen.ae/v1/content.aspx?sID=5&fID=48

http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/12/02/qatar-2022-��% 93-a-carbon-neutral-world-cup/

all very good them declaring that things will run on green energy. Great. I’m pleased.
But what about building the systems in the first place. Its the same old Prius debate. Sure, once its up and running its quite efficient. But the very building process is much more fuel thirsty.
Building solar energy generators cost loads of dosh. How about all the vehicles and machines they need to build stuff? What will they run on?
In a country bursting at the seams with cheap/free oil…are they really going to put on a ‘carbon free’ event?

Qatars stadiums for 2022

It’s not on until 2022, and by then Google will have taken over the world.
The world cup will be played in cyber space.

Coloured gentleman I called him, hardly racist. How dare you sir, I am neither racist nor Australian.

I am however weightist, which is why I discriminate against fat cunts like you Bandage.

:rolleyes:

Who gives a fuck about how carbon friendly the world cup is. Ffs this site has gone to fuck

People with broader horizons than following a perenially mediocre mid-table EPL team and picking fruit in rural New South Wales

‘I would say gay fans should refrain from any sexual activities when attending the 2022 Qatar World Cup’

Good man Sepp :lol:

This would be some craic if it happened. Would completely fuck up the European Leagues

World Cup 2022 to be held in winter

Friday January 07 2011

FIFA president Sepp Blatter expects the 2022 World Cup in Qatar to be held in January.

The game’s showpiece is traditionally held in the northern hemisphere’s summer but the stifling heat in the Middle East at that time of year has led to calls for a rethink.

And Blatter, speaking at the launch of the Asian Cup in Doha, told reporters: "I expect it will be held in the winter.

“We have time to look at this question, it is still 11 years away but we must decide the most adequate period for a successful World Cup which means January or the end of the year.”

FIFA’s executive committee opted to take the World Cup to Qatar, ahead of more favoured nations Australia and the United States, in December, having also decided to stage the 2018 tournament in Russia.

Concerns regarding the conditions were initially tempered by the promise of air-conditioned stadiums and training venues but Blatter now believes FIFA could change tack for the well-being of the players.

He added: "Do not forget there is still 11 years to go and although we have the basic conditions of their bid for a June and July World Cup, the FIFA executive committee is entitled to change anything that was in the bid.

“When you play football you have to protect the main people, the players.”

Any change to the world calendar would play havoc with domestic schedules, especially in Europe where the majority of leagues play through the winter.

Blatter has denied previously that FIFA were motivated by money in taking the tournament to Qatar.

He said last month: "If we wanted to make money, we would have gone to the United States and not this country.

“I understand that it may seem surprising, but we must not forget that they are making efforts and they have already hosted FIFA competitions.”

He continued: "With Qatar, we are opening football to a new world and a new culture.

“The Arab world has tried several times, with Morocco and Egypt for example, to host the World Cup.”

The talk about this started a couple of days after the announcement. So they’re effectively admitting that one of the key points of the bid – ie the air conditioned stadiums - is a fraud.

And the only one city can have two stadiums rule, what happened to that? :lol:

I’m about 3/4 of the way through Andrew Jennings’s book on FIFA at the moment. It’s actually hilarious, they are way more corrupt than even I had imagined.

If I had bothered to continue with that World Cup of Cunts competition Blatter would have been a worthy winner.

I’d love to know how much Qatar paid in bribes to win this. 100 million dollars plus I’d guess. No problem.

you really are taking your beloved england not getting the WC to heart

it would fuck up some european leagues but not all of them-our own league for example isnt a winter league :lol: idiot :smiley:

its a private company- who cares if they are corrupt. I think you have to realise that the western way of doing business isnt necessarily the correct or best way of doing business

Are you saying FIFA works in a western way and its not correct, or that they work in another way and you find it acceptable?