Because i donât think youâll be able to accurately give a detailed analysis of their current ability.
[quote=âmyboyblue, post: 914458, member: 180â]Heâs played every League game for Dublin this year. You might correct me, but he played most of the Byrne Cup games also? As youâll know, its not so much about the games, its the training. I was under the impression Dublin were going to release the U21âs from league duty after Round 1 or 2, but you could confirm that? Just seems unnecessary to play him so much given Castleknock would have had him playing into December twice over the past 3 years iirc.
I realise ACLâs have a certain misfortune to them, Iâm not like others on here in relation to this, I just think he could have been rested for a few of the games given Gavins strength up front and his dual player status.[/quote]
Itâs more about the games than the training you moron the games take way way more out of you. Further highlighting of your total misunderstanding of whatâs going in at all this damage was done over 3-4 years going bak along. Not this winter, it would just have been the straw that broke the camels back
Because i donât think youâll be able to accurately give a detailed analysis of their current ability.
[quote=âTess Tickle, post: 914467, member: 2269â]Because i donât think youâll be able to accurately give a detailed analysis of their current ability.[/quote]
Good save dumbass. Iâll happily do so. What is it you want exactly?
Way to completely miss the point of the post, as for the straw that broke the camels back, any S&C worth his salt would laugh you out the door for that one.
no kevâŚlike i said the last time the body doesnât bend a certain way without something snapping unfortunatelyâŚS & C is like consultancy during the celtic tiger - an awful lot of spoofers doing it !
:o I would be shocked to believe given the authority I have heard some people speak on it.
SHOCKED*!
- I would not be shocked in any way shape or form.
[quote=âmyboyblue, post: 914469, member: 180â] Good save dumbass. Iâll happily do so. What is it you want exactly?
Way to completely miss the point of the post, as for the straw that broke the camels back, any S&C worth his salt would laugh you out the door for that one.[/quote]
You are waffling now as you are being shown up.
Iâm looking forward to your analysis of Laois. Maybe you could do one on the top teams as well, maybe your top 4.
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 914475, member: 273â]You are waffling now as you are being shown up.
Iâm looking forward to your analysis of Laois. Maybe you could do one on the top teams as well, maybe your top 4.[/quote]
Good man, change the topic
Why would I do up an analysis of the top teams for someone who claims not to rate my opinion? I mean, who would be that dumb? Apart from the person asking of course.
What do i want exactly? :rolleyes:
I want your âdetailed analysisâ of Laois football like you promised, fucko.
[quote=âTess Tickle, post: 914477, member: 2269â]What do i want exactly? :rolleyes:
I want your âdetailed analysisâ of Laois football like you promised, fucko.[/quote]
Laois football is it? As in the Senior outfit?
MBB getting a serious exposing here.
It might be more about the games than the training but youâd be foolish not to take the cumulative effect of all the training into account. The lack of rest going back over several years is the key point. Kilkenny has been involved with probably at least eight different teams over the last few years and heâs at an age where heâs reluctant to say no to any management. Even little things like the time spent getting to training through rush hour traffic - Castleknock to Parnell Park is a long journey. All these things can take a mental toll - Kilkenny hasnât been playing particularly well since the middle of 2013.
Gooch was basically involved with two teams, Kerry and Dr. Crokes, and both train a stoneâs throw from where he lives. He has been managed well for most of career from a training and playing perspective. His injury was simply the result of being on the end of a crude tackle.
Itâs nothing like that, itâs just a growing industry finding itâs feet a bit likeIT in the 90âs.
You are ignoring or un knowledgable about cumulative neural fatigue, which is fair enough. But it seems your own injuries you want to put down to bad luck because you struggle to accept you may have done things differently or should hae let your ankles heal properly or done the rehab correctly or at all. The fact is your weakened ankle more than likely destabilized your knee
Now you can call me crazy etc etc, itâs old on here now, but your story is arguably the most common of the old ACL stories.
But science improves, but new challenges come as well, and unfortunately some guys are stuck in the middle. Hopefully the next generation of footballers get better looked after.
@Gman - Can you see now one of the reasons Iâm anti- dual minors.
Laois Senior Football Analysis - its quite rushed given the demands being made, but Iâll happily expand where required if I believe the request to be genuine.
GOALKEEPER
Graham Brody - Second choice for Portlaoise, but first choice for Laois. Will be Laois keeper for as long as he wants it but right away this shows the problem Laois have, Portlaoise. Its the elephant in the room. He is the only Portlaoise player involved with Laois right now, yet isnt first choice in his Club. 7 times County Champions, and the sub goalie is all that will commit. Discuss. Culliton found himself relegated to 3rd choice this year, more a result of his kkckouts which left him down in recent years, but he was an excellent shot stopper and its a pity he dropped off the panel as a result.
FULL BACKLINE
Cahir Healy committed to Hurling last year, and the reasons for that have yet to come out fully. He is travelling this year, but would he have gone back? Difficult to say, doubtful most likely. After that, we lack corner backs, on Saturday we had an attacking wing back and a full back in the corners and both were sadly exposed. Not their fault, more the fault of others in the county unwilling to commit to intercounty football. Its an amateur game, I donât blame them really, but its left Laois dreadfully light in the backline. At least we finally have a settled fullback in Timmons, he put both Conroy of Galway and Clarke of Armagh in his pocket in recent weeks. Kehoe who got injured against Galway was sadly missed.
HALF BACKLINE
No centre back, none, whatsoever. Paul Begley is honest, but not the answer to any question in the backline unfortunately. Iâd put Colm there, not ideal, but worth a shot as we have a few forwards to spare and he could do a job there. McMahon is off the pace on the wing this year after missing a lot of the pre season. Strong is excellent going forward, will pick up scores, but defensively can be found out. Scumpot mentioned 6 footers in the Laois middle, but of this lot, only Strong would come close to it. But we really dont have much else right now, maybe Adam Ryan but he got some chances in the Byrne Cup and didnt shine. The U21âs showed up little either, maybe Feane of Portlaoise, but heâs not playing for their seniors either!
MIDFIELD
Meaney and John O, best we have there and settled. Possibly two of the ones scumpot was referring to but what else would you play in midfield. Meaney kicked 1-1 against Galway, but was poor Saturday night. OâLoughin is touted for centre back, but is too loose to truly make it there, and given the emigration of Quigley and retirement of Clancy, heâs needed there now. Not much else behind them sadly.
HALF FORWARD LINE
Possibly the area being referred to by Scumpot, and Iâd agree to an extent. Begley Kingston and Finn lined out here on Saturday night and its far from ideal. Kingston needs to be at 14, and while he is 6ft, plus heâs at least a little more mobile this year and his talent is undoubted. Begley as said, Iâd have working as sweeper or centre back. Finn is coming from a Intermediate Club and this is a big step up. Heâs big, but cumbersome, not helped by being such a dominant figure on an average Club side. Hard to see him make it, which is a pity. A possible midfield back up playing wing forward, which as scumpot pointed out, might not be the way to go anymore.
FULL FORWARD LINE
Starting Saturday were Sheehan, Conway and Ross. Conway and Ross are both under 6ft. Sheehan, is, well, Sheehan. Possibly has it all done now, and looked incredibly slow on Saturday, I wouldnât have him starting anymore but heâs been a great servant, if a little cantankerous with other teams and fans on occasion. Ross is Ross, outstanding, captain this year and was our only saving grace against Donegal. His shooting let him down Saturday. Conway is very small, but a great ball winner, Iâd keep him on, he impresses me every time. Gary Walsh is pushing hard for a place, as is Paul Kingston and Evan O Carroll, but I was very disappointed to see Paul Cahillane drop himself off the panel recently, leaving Brody the sole Town representative with Laois. I rate him highly and its sad that either he wasnât given a chance nail down a place, or that he wasnât willing to.
As said above, Portlaoise is the elephant in the room in Laois football right now. They should be contributing at least 4 others. Their Club strength may be that they have a lot of above average players but perhaps not too many county standard, but 1 player from a 7 in a row winning side is pretty unacceptable. Its a shame Glynn and Healy are abroad, theyâd be great assets. I believe Boyle and Lillis are long term injuries, but the likes of Rogers could definitely do a job with Laois, but has been unwilling to commit for a few years now. Its sad, as in the modern game, he could actually thrive with the new black card rules.
Thereâs a few U21âs who could do a job, but the best of them seem to be forwards, we seem to be producing few quality backs of late and that a worry.
Quit stalling mate. You made a sweeping statement that you would gladly give a âdetailed analysisâ of Laois football. I havenât set the terms of engagement. You are trying to put yourself up as some sort of expert on the topic and didnât think anyone would call you up on it. So away you go mate, weâre all waitingâŚ
Fuck you one ball.
[quote=âmyboyblue, post: 914493, member: 180â]Laois Senior Football Analysis - its quite rushed given the demands being made, but Iâll happily expand where required if I believe the request to be genuine.
GOALKEEPER
Graham Brody - Second choice for Portlaoise, but first choice for Laois. Will be Laois keeper for as long as he wants it but right away this shows the problem Laois have, Portlaoise. Its the elephant in the room. He is the only Portlaoise player involved with Laois right now, yet isnt first choice in his Club. 7 times County Champions, and the sub goalie is all that will commit. Discuss. Culliton found himself relegated to 3rd choice this year, more a result of his kkckouts which left him down in recent years, but he was an excellent shot stopper and its a pity he dropped off the panel as a result.
FULL BACKLINE
Cahir Healy committed to Hurling last year, and the reasons for that have yet to come out fully. He is travelling this year, but would he have gone back? Difficult to say, doubtful most likely. After that, we lack corner backs, on Saturday we had an attacking wing back and a full back in the corners and both were sadly exposed. Not their fault, more the fault of others in the county unwilling to commit to intercounty football. Its an amateur game, I donât blame them really, but its left Laois dreadfully light in the backline. At least we finally have a settled fullback in Timmons, he put both Conroy of Galway and Clarke of Armagh in his pocket in recent weeks. Kehoe who got injured against Galway was sadly missed.
HALF BACKLINE
No centre back, none, whatsoever. Paul Begley is honest, but not the answer to any question in the backline unfortunately. Iâd put Colm there, not ideal, but worth a shot as we have a few forwards to spare and he could do a job there. McMahon is off the pace on the wing this year after missing a lot of the pre season. Strong is excellent going forward, will pick up scores, but defensively can be found out. Scumpot mentioned 6 footers in the Laois middle, but of this lot, only Strong would come close to it. But we really dont have much else right now, maybe Adam Ryan but he got some chances in the Byrne Cup and didnt shine. The U21âs showed up little either, maybe Feane of Portlaoise, but heâs not playing for their seniors either!
MIDFIELD
Meaney and John O, best we have there and settled. Possibly two of the ones scumpot was referring to but what else would you play in midfield. Meaney kicked 1-1 against Galway, but was poor Saturday night. OâLoughin is touted for centre back, but is too loose to truly make it there, and given the emigration of Quigley and retirement of Clancy, heâs needed there now. Not much else behind them sadly.
HALF FORWARD LINE
Possibly the area being referred to by Scumpot, and Iâd agree to an extent. Begley Kingston and Finn lined out here on Saturday night and its far from ideal. Kingston needs to be at 14, and while he is 6ft, plus heâs at least a little more mobile this year and his talent is undoubted. Begley as said, Iâd have working as sweeper or centre back. Finn is coming from a Intermediate Club and this is a big step up. Heâs big, but cumbersome, not helped by being such a dominant figure on an average Club side. Hard to see him make it, which is a pity. A possible midfield back up playing wing forward, which as scumpot pointed out, might not be the way to go anymore.
FULL FORWARD LINE
Starting Saturday were Sheehan, Conway and Ross. Conway and Ross are both under 6ft. Sheehan, is, well, Sheehan. Possibly has it all done now, and looked incredibly slow on Saturday, I wouldnât have him starting anymore but heâs been a great servant, if a little cantankerous with other teams and fans on occasion. Ross is Ross, outstanding, captain this year and was our only saving grace against Donegal. His shooting let him down Saturday. Conway is very small, but a great ball winner, Iâd keep him on, he impresses me every time. Gary Walsh is pushing hard for a place, as is Paul Kingston and Evan O Carroll, but I was very disappointed to see Paul Cahillane drop himself off the panel recently, leaving Brody the sole Town representative with Laois. I rate him highly and its sad that either he wasnât given a chance nail down a place, or that he wasnât willing to.
As said above, Portlaoise is the elephant in the room in Laois football right now. They should be contributing at least 4 others. Their Club strength may be that they have a lot of above average players but perhaps not too many county standard, but 1 player from a 7 in a row winning side is pretty unacceptable. Its a shame Glynn and Healy are abroad, theyâd be great assets. I believe Boyle and Lillis are long term injuries, but the likes of Rogers could definitely do a job with Laois, but has been unwilling to commit for a few years now. Its sad, as in the modern game, he could actually thrive with the new black card rules.
Thereâs a few U21âs who could do a job, but the best of them seem to be forwards, we seem to be producing few quality backs of late and that a worry.[/quote]
Now if there is anyone else here from Laois or that knows Laois football please step forward and comment on this piece of writing.
Thats enough so
[quote=âcaoimhaoin, post: 914486, member: 273â]Itâs nothing like that, itâs just a growing industry finding itâs feet a bit likeIT in the 90âs.
You are ignoring or un knowledgable about cumulative neural fatigue, which is fair enough. But it seems your own injuries you want to put down to bad luck because you struggle to accept you may have done things differently or should hae let your ankles heal properly or done the rehab correctly or at all. The fact is your weakened ankle more than likely destabilized your knee
Now you can call me crazy etc etc, itâs old on here now, but your story is arguably the most common of the old ACL stories.
But science improves, but new challenges come as well, and unfortunately some guys are stuck in the middle. Hopefully the next generation of footballers get better looked after.
@Gman - Can you see now one of the reasons Iâm anti- dual minors.[/quote]
nothing to do with me kev and just for your dossier it was the opposite leg to my ankle that I did my knee on, so that blows your theory clean out of the waterâŚin fairness you do seem to know a lot about S & C but there is an awful lot of wafflers doing itâŚthatâs well known too ⌠there is so much misinformation out there about it âŚI also think you over state its value by applying it to every injuryâŚi just canât get my head around somebodyâs leg planted in the turf and them trying to turn the opposite way being anything to do with their S & C trainingâŚthe leg canât go 360 , something has to snap and I think gaelic football is probably the worst game to play for it as you are constantly turningâŚ
[quote=âSidney, post: 914481, member: 183â]It might be more about the games than the training but youâd be foolish not to take the cumulative effect of all the training into account. The lack of rest going back over several years is the key point. Kilkenny has been involved with probably at least eight different teams over the last few years and heâs at an age where heâs reluctant to say no to any management. Even little things like the time spent getting to training through rush hour traffic - Castleknock to Parnell Park is a long journey. All these things can take a mental toll - Kilkenny hasnât been playing particularly well since the middle of 2013.
Gooch was basically involved with two teams, Kerry and Dr. Crokes, and both train a stoneâs throw from where he lives. He has been managed well for most of career from a training and playing perspective. His injury was simply the result of being on the end of a crude tackle.[/quote]
I agree. I only queried his new regime in and dismissed a luck element based on the fact some guy came into him to clear bury him and it was cut ally a bad tackle with little regard for the player. I was suggesting the new training could have been a co tributary cause to his inability to withstand or move away, but I was only querying.
Iâm glad you brought up the travel etc for CK. Idiots who never did anything like Mac and MBB went off in ine a few years ago when I suggested Aidan Walsh not even togging out would give him a mental rest. Still the morons continue to make fools of themselves.