2014 Six Nations Thread - Come the Power & the Glory

I’d go with that Wexford always had great support. Cork have great support but are a huge and successful county. Waterford have a hardcore of about 7,000 supporters who would go to all the championship games come what may. Not bad for a county of 80,000 people not in the habit of winning things.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, thats the equivalent of dublin bringing 100k to games which they most definitely dont.

I think the Dublin thing is only noticeable due to the shear numbers. Club has nothing to do with my points though. The dubs are well supported full stop IMO.

Mayo I agree, Armagh I’m not sure, but Waterford? Seriously? I would have thought they were the epitome of a bandwagon during the 2000’s. By the way, I have no issue with that, success breeds support, as it should.[/QUOTE]

My point about club supporters was that most dublin supporters, and i mean the majority are only interested in big championship days in croker. They dont fill it for league finals or the spring series etc and they have little connection with the gaa other than watching the dubs in a big game. Its a tenuous link but a valid one i think. The biggest factor by far is that they dont have to travel long distances to games.

I always thought Wexford had great support-[/QUOTE]

They did when going well. Galway massively outnumbered cork, which has twice our population, in the semi two years ago due to expectation for example. No one bar mayo i think brings a huge crowd regardless of how they are going, as i stated armagh and waterford seem to have a good hardcore support, cork have a fair few, tyrone too, but they are successful

I’d be getting very worried for my job if I was Joe Schmidt. The last New Zealander who led Ireland to four wins out of five in the Six Nations and threw away a big lead in a friendly against New Zealand was fucked out on his ear.

#JusticeforGatty

[QUOTE=“maroonandwhite, post: 917275, member: 1406”]I think the Dublin thing is only noticeable due to the shear numbers. Club has nothing to do with my points though. The dubs are well supported full stop IMO.

Mayo I agree, Armagh I’m not sure, but Waterford? Seriously? I would have thought they were the epitome of a bandwagon during the 2000’s. By the way, I have no issue with that, success breeds support, as it should.[/QUOTE]

My point about club supporters was that most dublin supporters, and i mean the majority are only interested in big championship days in croker. They dont fill it for league finals or the spring series etc and they have little connection with the gaa other than watching the dubs in a big game. Its a tenuous link but a valid one i think. The biggest factor by far is that they dont have to travel long distances to games.[/QUOTE]

I agree there is an element of “soccer type” support for them, as you describe many have no club affiliation. Nevertheless it’s still support and I think we can all ignore league support. Killkenny get very good Sid league support an Dublin can get relative big numbers, but everyone else completely waits for championship. Bit I suppose my point is more related to championship, the Dubs get consistently decent crowds.

I think people are generally way too hung up on bandwagons. It’s about enjoyment and entertainment an it also leads to a bit if pride in where you are from.
What the fuck could possibly be wrong with that?

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I think people are generally way too hung up on bandwagons. It’s about enjoyment and entertainment an it also leads to a bit if pride in where you are from.
What the fuck could possibly be wrong with that?[/QUOTE]

Using rugby to project your territorial pride is akin to parading a rapist or paedophile as a local hero.

Dublin GAA is the biggest bandwagon of them all. 10 years ago the first round of the Leinster championship against Wexford was a complete sell out. Only the semi and final of the All Ireland sell out now.[/QUOTE]

That’s a strange phenomenon alright but not really a bandwagon. If it was a bandwagon they’d be selling out first round matches now after 2 all Irelands in 3 seasons. Was more to do with the economy id say.

There is a lovely Dublin GAA crowd who are very knowledgeable. However unlike most GAA crowds who attend games a lot of Dublin fans couldn’t name a player on the opposition team which to me is a barometer of sorts for the sort of lad you can get at big Dublin games.

Dublin has a massive population, a huge portion of whom live within a short commute of the two stadiums they play nearly all their games in. When they dont go well they lose the majority of bandwagoners, theyll always get the crowd on the hill for whom its as much about saying you were there as the match itself. The club matches in the county are some of the poorest attended in the country for the population. All counties have bandwagons, i remember clare people saying in the 90s,we always followed them through thick and thin, before they then deciding to abandon them straight after, only to return when they make a semi final. I would rate mayo, waterford and armagh as having the best support.[/QUOTE]

The senior hurling final in Kerry is better attended than the senior hurling final in Dublin. Attendance at club games in Dublin is poor

The senior hurling final in Kerry is better attended than the senior hurling final in Dublin. Attendance at club games in Dublin is poor[/QUOTE]

really? methinks people on here were lying to me when they said the GGA was popular in Dublin

[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 917197, member: 2533”]You seem embittered about Ulster people having more backbone and pride than their free state counterparts and resort to the usual Brit quips. Ulster men have fought and died en-masse to free their occupied land, to unite Ireland in the manner which its forefathers wished it to be. The West Brit rugby team fly out for greetings with the British Royal Family, abandon their national anthem to appease a few orange bigots and serve as am outlet for the Protestant gentry of the island and Castle Catholics. It’s nothing to do with snobbery from Ulster people, it’s more to do with the inferiority connotations the Southern quislings inevitably feel about their cowardice in the years the Nationalist community of the O6 were suffering widespread discrimination and violent reprisals due to a state the free state explicitly gave rise to.

A true gael resents the quisling and servile nature of West Brit Rugby Football.

My interest in Tyrone is long standing and predates your inaccurate accusations, I’m sure there are enough posts here to prove it.[/QUOTE]
Just breed the cunts out an be done with it FFS.

i would agree with that there is a very knowledgeable hurling crowd attending league fixtures in Parnell Park, the same demograph would attend league games in most counties tho

I’m asexual.

Oh so that’s why they fucked you out.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 917136, member: 273”]Fuck the begrudgers. Some real stupid bitter cunts on here must be fuming. It’s weird they put so much time into hating rugby. It’s a clear insecurity. The GAA people who go in about it did so out of fear for a long time, but it’s clear now it’s not really having any effect and GAA playing numbers and it’s general organization has in fact learned from rugby and surpassed it at kids levels. Most GAA people, irish people remember, enjoy it cos it’s an Irish team competing at a high level and being successful. Ya it’s bandwagoning in a lot of cases, but just look at the bandwagoning that goes on in every GAA county bar arguably KK and Dublin, or with the “Irish” (lots of English lads) soccer team anytime they get to anything.
Complete hypocrisy from the likes of bandage, Totti (his interest in Tyrone all of a sudden is amusing)etc who bandwagon just about anything going. It’s embarrassing in fact.

Great day for the team and BOD especially, great day for the majority of Irish people.

I don’t think you can underestimate beating France away. They love rugby and have a massive pick compared to Ireland. When it comes down to numbers and not money as much in a professional sport, usually there is only one winner.[/QUOTE]
I think you have to live in Ireland to understand just how disproportionate and over the top the coverage of the rugby team is.

I don’t begrudge any of the players who won a championship, nor any of the supporters who cared about rugby for years. But the vast swathes of morons who haven’t a clue about the sport, don’t understand the rules (or even a basic grasp of them) and are oddly passionate about it is very strange indeed. The media insist on propagating this line with the blinkered view that this is extremely important to the welfare of the country.

You’d swear it was Italia 90 with the way the media hyped up this week’s game.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 917195, member: 273”]“True Gaels” only ever comes out of the mouths of bitter, chip on their shoulder Nordie lads. Often these lads have taken British government money to pay for sporting facilities or have got visas for other countries on the easier ride of the British passport. Is that how you became Italian? You pretended to be a Brit (which of course you are really anyway)? Anyway it’s a bull shit phrase entrenched in a weird deluded snobbery of the Nordies, the “we’re more irish than you Southerners” crap.

A “true Gael” would be delighted with Ireland’s win, it’s the only bloody thing we are 32 counties for.

You only got interested in Tyrone since about last July/August, when they looked like they may be challengers again. Up to that all you did wa bash GAA. So lets tell it like it really was. You are as much a bandwagoner as any of us.[/QUOTE]
The IABA is a 32 county organisation kev, they win medals to bate the band at all ages and weights in Olympics, world championships etc and you’ll see fuck all about it to be honest unless its a novelty like Katie Taylor

Ya, shocking forget from me there.

[QUOTE=“Rocko, post: 917381, member: 1”]I think you have to live in Ireland to understand just how disproportionate and over the top the coverage of the rugby team is.

I don’t begrudge any of the players who won a championship, nor any of the supporters who cared about rugby for years. But the vast swathes of morons who haven’t a clue about the sport, don’t understand the rules (or even a basic grasp of them) and are oddly passionate about it is very strange indeed. The media insist on propagating this line with the blinkered view that this is extremely important to the welfare of the country.

You’d swear it was Italia 90 with the way the media hyped up this week’s game.[/QUOTE]
I could see the BOD thing was off the charts alright. You are right that you’d have to be there to hear the conversations etc. but still, it’s the begrudgers I take issue with.

[QUOTE=“Rocko, post: 917381, member: 1”]I think you have to live in Ireland to understand just how disproportionate and over the top the coverage of the rugby team is.

I don’t begrudge any of the players who won a championship, nor any of the supporters who cared about rugby for years. But the vast swathes of morons who haven’t a clue about the sport, don’t understand the rules (or even a basic grasp of them) and are oddly passionate about it is very strange indeed. The media insist on propagating this line with the blinkered view that this is extremely important to the welfare of the country.

You’d swear it was Italia 90 with the way the media hyped up this week’s game.[/QUOTE]

Great post.

Sums my feelings up on rugger. Living in Limerick magnifies all that x100. Bastards.