[QUOTE=“Nembo Kid, post: 1143440, member: 2514”]You’re quite clearly a sensitive soul and still haven’t bothered to actually challenge what I said.
I said Roscommon are not worth the hype that goes along with them. Clearly this offended you and you believe otherwise as you have engaged on a long winded debate on the very subject. I’m referring to Championship football here, they haven’t beaten anyone of note in 8 years of Championship? So I think it’s a fair comment to say that they shouldn’t be ranked on the level they are until they actually do something substantive in the Championship? Would you not agree? Please actually answer this rather than starts shitting on about Hastings Cups, div 4, college medals and the like. What have Roscommon done in Championship football in the last 8 years bar win a soft Connacht title.
With regard to pre-match odds, this a truly bizarre point from yourself. I understand perfectly how they work, I just said they were badly off and the results showed - Roscommon 8/11 - Armagh 11/8. Armagh cruised to victory as they are a much better side, the bookies severely underrated Armagh and overrated Roscommon - which ties in perfectly with what I said they were overhyped, hence the odds. You’re making a fool out of yourself on this issue now. The odds reflected that Roscommon were a much better team than both Armagh and the Tyrone u21s and the opposite turned to be true. I don’t think it was a once off either, I’ve seen Roscommon a few times over the past few years and they’ve been very disappointing on all occasions.
I don’t know what you are talking about Sligo’s odds for, another quite bizarre point. The bottom line is they are a poor side, forget about their odds - could you actually see Sligo running a big side close? You might actually answer these questions as well. I’ll repeat again, if Roscommon have any serious ambitions they will be disposing of Sligo without much bother.
College medals are a load of shite. This discussion has been had on here before.
There is definitely a divide in the media reporting of the GAA and it’s the Southern media who can’t wait to stick the boot into Ulster teams, write us off and blame us for the ills of the game. That’s just the way it is, it’s not objective reporting. It’s all these big, bad, dirty, cheating, cynical nordie thugs come down and rough up our little angels, they don’t report things objectively so fuck them. That arsehole Ciaran Whelan is a disgrace and I hope Dublin get fucked out by an Ulster teams just to see his face.
You are new here, so I’ll give you some more advice. Try and actually settle on one argument as jumping from pillar to post doesn’t do you much credibility. Clearly you feel that my comments on Roscommon are unfair and they have upset you. I have merely given an opinion on them which is they are overhyped and if they are to be taken seriously they will have to make an All Ireland qf this year, they will have to beat someone big. Now you have taken issue with this so you quite clearly feel they are a good team and they deserve the plaudits coming their way. Do you?
They haven’t won a big game in Championship football, they have bombed badly in recent crunch games at all levels when they were highly fancied, that to me suggests a team that was overhyped and again it’s a fair comment. Do you disagree with that? I haven’t seen a great deal of Roscommon but I have heard a good deal about them and then when I have seen them I was very underwhelmed. They just seem don’t that good, they play quite a defensive game but don’t seem to know how to defend, there’s a mental frailty to the players given how they have got brushed aside in big games they were favoured for and counties that they are rated ahead of just seem to have a better quality of footballer. These views have annoyed you, so quit the poor mouthing of expectations and tell us you feel they are worth the hype. If you’re going to challenge me then you’ll have to do it like a man and not behind some veil of duplicity, playing the poormouth yourself and then getting stroppy when someone else writes you off.
For what it’s worth, I’d be saying the same about Cavan, Tipperary or any other “emerging” county if they were rated as highly as you. They haven’t taken a big scalp yet and deserve to be viewed with cynicism until they do make the breakthrough.[/QUOTE]
Such a long post over breakfast this morning…
I challenged you with each of my posts all you have done is repeat yourself and while you claim you don’t like repeating yourself from what i see you are like the talking parrot in the picture you posted. I have well covered all the points you have tried to make if you can’t come up with new material then the discussion is going no where.
Roscommon were promoted to Div two won the title in Croke park understandable there is talk about them now as there will be next summer whoever wins Div two. Little or no talk about Roscommon seniors before John Evans arrived other than mostly negative. 2013 Roscommon were tipped to drop back to Div 4 yet ended up finishing one point behind the two promoted sides Meath and Monaghan. 2014 Roscommon weren’t tipped for promoted but did and won the title in Croke park against Cavan who were favourites to win. This year were tipped to struggle in div two and when Roscommon only drew their first game at home to Cavan you could have got odds as long as 9/1 on promotion but over hyped for years you said.
“Southern” media you love to hate decide to have a few talks or write ups about Roscommon and you become all hot an bothered about it. I never knew little Roscommon would cause such reaction, i reckon you would be less stressed if Roscommon were a team from the North. The fact is the majority of pundits,experts will be tipping Mayo for Connacht this summer and if Roscommon end up in the qualifiers as expected and face one of your Ulster teams well few if any will be tipping Roscommon to win.
In regards to the odds I have explained the Armagh odds last summer already one further note i highly doubt Roscommon would be slight favourties if that game was played in Armagh. While you try to exaggerate Roscommon are no different than others have won or lost games as favourites or underdogs, for example Roscommon U21s were hot favourites to win the Connacht final in Tuam this year and would have won by 6 points but for a last minute goal from Galway. Last year hot favourites to beat Mayo U21s in Castlebar and Roscommon delivered their biggest win against them in decades.
Sligo seniors challenged Cork in round 4 last year a week before Cork got within one point of Mayo in the Quarter final. When it comes to championship football Sligo are the most inconsistent team around even their own supporters have called themselves a bit of enigma, they have won or got very close to winning games they were expected to lose well while lost games they were expected to win well which will make them a banana skin for Roscommon in the possible semi final.
I could count one hand the amount of times Roscommon have played defensive in the last three years and even when used it has rarely been successfully as i believe that is system that needs to be worked on for many months. The quality of footballer is probably the best its been in Roscommon for over a decade and for the first time in years have plenty of options on the bench/panel.
What i said about Roscommon is they are a young and improving side, more than half of the panel are aged between 19 to 23 who are finding their feet at senior county level they have few championship appearances amongst them and the more championships games this summer the better as it will bring them on and regardless of the results playing against the top six sides in Div one next year it will be good learning experience.
