They haven’t really spoken.
What they are sold at present is stay in Sam McGuire to get to croke park, maybe. However if the 2nd tier was enacted then it would double their chances of getting there. Everything else is just a losers mentality.
The luck of the draw. What sort of lame bullshit excuse is that?
The provincial system is imbalanced and the qualifier system should seek to redress that. Instead the imbeciles in the GAA have actually undertaken a system that reinforces provincial draws in the Championship system.
The draw is imbalanced from the outset, there is no luck to it, it has already been predetermined.
Yes.
There is a perfectly straightforward solution to redress the imbalance of the provincial systems through the qualifiers.
They have spoken, Kevin, and they’ve rejected a two tier championship. And they’re right to do so.
Some teams have to jump through flaming hoops and other teams have a nice walk on soft lushy grass.
So it is relative to who they have to get past rather than who progresses.
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Teams are on their second chance so there should be no weighting of the system under the current structure.
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There isn’t anything to suggest that this has been an issue, you have not supplied any examples of this as in response to my last question.
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It would ridiculously complicate the nature of the draw to address a non-existent issue.
The provincials must go, Ulster must be destroyed to save itself.
Why can you not get that 4 provinces/sections of 8 is fairer and easier to organise than whats there now.
The Ulster championship must be retained in its current format. The preliminary round game in May signals the start of summer for fior gaels like me.
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They didn’t. Nothing has been put to them.
They were asked for a few suggestions and their leaders came up with that.
It’s an open draw, mate. That’s the whole point of it. You want to introduce an element of fix into it. That by definition makes it not open.
The problem is not the championship format or even the qualifiers, the problem is the attitude of some counties. They don’t give a shit. Until that mentality is changed then you could redo the format of the championship for the next 1000 years and it will still be the same problems.
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Ah here, would you ever fuck off you gobshite, this was a bit of fun, but then you had to butt in with this horseshit.
Kevin, if they wanted a two-tier championship, that’s what would have been proposed.
They dont want it. Get over it and stop listening to know-nothings in the media pushing the “Vibrant Cup” agenda.
It’s the greatest sporting competition in the world, mate.
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You are ignoring the factors around why teams are on their second chance - the imbalance of the provincial championships. Why do you keep trying to ignore this or act like it doesn’t exist?
8 out of 9 Ulster counties will play in Div 2 or higher next season. A minimum of four of these teams will go into the first round of the qualifiers.
8 of the 11 Leinster teams will play Div 3 or lower next year, at the minimum 1 of these won’t have to enter the qualifiers until the second round at the earliest.
4 of the 6 Munster counties play in Div 3 or lower. A minimum of two of those are guaranteed to avoid the first round of the qualifiers.
3 of the 6 Connacht counties play in Div 3 or lower, a minimum of one of these is guaranteed to avoid the first round of the qualifiers.
Hardly fair is it?
But its not fair on the Ulster teams. They need to be cut loose from playing each other as Nembo said. It must be discarded.
No I’m not. The Championship is the luck of the draw.
Applying your rationale if Kildare are unlucky enough to draw Dublin, and lose to them, in the first round of the Leinster Championship, they should be compensated for this in some manner.
Tough titties. You are subject to an open draw at provincial level and in the All-Ireland qualifiers.
Two cracks at it is fair enough in any man’s language.
It’s not the luck of the draw. It’s unfair on a predetermined basis, the provincial structure ensures it’s not an open draw.
The provincial structure is imbalanced and there’s a need to redress it.
You are ignoring the process of what actually went on.
There is absolutely no evidence available to prove this is what even a majority wanted.
This is more likely what the GPA brass and their “partners” wanted and the GAA feel is tolerable. Nobody in fact knows bar a few leaders what the players wanted.