Kilmacud was always seen as a safe option for class conscious chaps up from the country.
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Of course at no time did i say Dublin was the only issue. But i can’t use urban Cork or Kerry but i can all the rest. Laughable debating. You also seem to mistake cups and probably county and club provincial success as a barometer. However thats not my barometer. You picked a few stupid ones though as you can see below make the likes of KC, Ballyboden, Blackrock Portlaois etc look stupid.
Drogheda - 5 clubs for 30,000
Dundalk - 6 clubs for 37,000
Sligo - 2 clubs (i think) for 19,000
Louth should be doing better at county level there is no doubt about that, they have a gealthy population. But they are certainly providing an oppurtunity to play.
GAA in Wicklow Town is strong, i played there and it has no issues in that sense. Arklow is a disgrace though and they had to join with a neighbouring rural club to survive. Would be a rown i would be targettting, lots of new middle class people there.
Sligo has a very weak population and i’m not sure how much more can be done for them, i simply know very little about the place.
Armagh towns cannot be debated due to high proddie population and are spurioys inclusions that do your, already flawed and battered argument, no favours.
Derry has 83,000 people. A few searches gives the Catholic/Nationalist pop. a small bit over 50%. So lets say 5 GAA clubs in 45,000. Too little i would say, but still better than Ballyboden, Crokes etc etc per population.
Limerick is fine for the most part although there are one or two areas that could be developed at both ends. Not completely sure of the geography or the demographics but i have heard people complain about Na Piarsaigh and their pick and encroachment. But it may just be jealousy
For what its worth i think some rural clubs should be joining up and let the ego’s go in another way.
Were kilmacud and boden not started and grown by roasters who moved in and had no real options that far south of the city. Youd need to find a community with a good few blow ins with a history of club membership back in the sticks. Impossible cost wise to set up a site within the m50, the only option would be using municipal grounds but you’re off to a shaky start re access or whatever. cherrywood would seem ideal, luas accessible etc
You would not have to forcibly split people already immersed. Its pretty easy to work around. Slowly every year alot new areas to the new club(s). So the u6’s-u9’s next year start with Cherrywood or whoever. Give them attractive facilities. Coffee shop for the parents (the real deal breakers), use of a gym etc.
KC wpuld still for years and years be a far bigger club. But that doesn’t matter. You don’t have to or want to create another super club.
Where there is a will. I bet there would be a certaim amount of will in the area, but no organisational support.
I agree there are probably 10 more areas around dublin like your Monkstown suggestiom that could take a club. No reason not to start all projects.
Money is there.
The nationalist population is about 70% in Derry, maybe more.
Lurgan has a nationalist majority and there would be a sizable Catholic population in Craigavon >30%, bit under that in Portadown.
Urban areas make up over 50% of the population in Louth but I would say representation on county teams is much less that from clubs from the two towns, it’s a secondary sport in both Drogheda and Dundalk.
Sligo town equates to roughly a third of Sligo’s population, again how is this transferred to county team in terms of numbers?
Counties with disproportionate urban populations seem to struggle in the greater scheme of things.
You used that number.
Its been a bad day. Take a break, go for a walk.
I did not.
I listed all the costs which were far in excess of the figure you decided to isolate and use to spin your argument. You are intellectually out of your depth here with the big boys, you’re the dumbest kid in the class.
Derry city is what we are talking about. So its just over 50% as all sources say.
Urban areas is what we are talking about.
Participation is what we are talking about.
We are not talking about
- the strength of other sports in Louth
- the lack of (if there is) of urban dwellers on the Louth team.
They are specific internal issues.
You can try to move the posts all you want but i will hammer you every time. You are out of your depth here.
What sources? Derry is far more than just over 50%.
Wtf are you on about.
Over a 100 posts of pure scutter on issues which are not issues.
Do you now want rural clubs joining up to become bigger clubs offering less games for underage players?
No not for that reason.
But i won’t debate with you. You are too stupid and narrow minded for this.
Move along.
I’m too stupid & narrow minded?
You are talking tommy rot for 2 days.
List off these rural clubs with big egos you bullshitting cunt.
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Multiple clubs in Kerry and West & North Cork. Milford, Sneem, Derrynane, Renard, O’Mathunas, etc etc
Refusing to amaglamate due to old issues yet they let teams not field and in some cases don’t put out u16 or minor teams in either club yet if they joined up they would have a team.
You have jumped in like the other spastics without a clue what tou are on about.
Ye are consistent anyway.
Derry Urban Area (DUA), including the city and the neighbouring settlements of Culmore, Newbuildings and Strathfoyle, is classified as a city by the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) since its population exceeds 75,000. On census day (27 March 2011) there were 105,066 people living in Derry Urban Area. Of these, 27% were aged under 16 years and 14% were aged 60 and over; 49% of the population were male and 51% were female; **75% were from a Roman Catholic background and 23% (up three percent from 2001) were from a Protestant background.[**81]
Fair enough.
5 clubs in 70,000 approx. Not good enough.
However all it does is prove my point. More clubs in urban areas is needed.
Keep on calling me a spastic with the spelling ability of an 8 year old?
In Tipperary FWIW, many rural clubs have underage teams with other clubs due to limited numbers. The vast majority will never amalgamate fully because they want to retain their history & traditions which is what the Association is built upon you mong. Ego has fuck all to do with that.
A cunt like you calling clubs out on Ego is so fucking ironic.
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It doesn’t have a presence there and never really had, Derry City is soccer mad and it always has been - there’s 4 Irish internationals from Derry City at the minute - McClean, Gibson, O’Kane and Duffy.
There are two other clubs in shadow of KC. Geraldines in Corneslcourt/Foxrock and Foxrock Cabinteely
The Crokes offering is just so slick it is compelling when starting out and trying to get kids involved.
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