2015 Club Championships - the lads are STILL at it

Really???

You’re talking about small provincial towns. I’m talking about reasonably sized towns without the parochial feel. Only towns with a population of > circa 20k should come into consieration in that remit.

Now deal with the question put forward, it was very specific.

Wouldn’t be familiar with a lot of the newer Cork players but just looking at the match programme from the drawn Munster final in 2015, off the starting team Michael Shields - St Finbarrs, Paul Kerrigan, Barry O’Driscoll, Stephen Cronin - Nemo Rangers, Eoin Cadogan - Douglas by my reckoning are all city players. Conor Dorman & Jamie O’Sullivan (both Bishopstown) came on as subs. Daniel Goulding came on as a sub as well. Think his club Eire Og are a city club. The sub goalie Paddy O’Shea plays for St Vincents, another city club.

Eire Og are not a city club according to wikipedia.

So 8 of the 26 were players from city clubs?

Urban is urban.

And i don’t fucking care. You are too juvenile to discuss the real critical issues with. Its beyond your brain or experience.

You have not lived and are limited by your environment.

You’re the lad who considers parochial towns as urban and says I haven’t lived. :grinning:

Over 1/3rd. Considering the population within the bounds of the city clubs (120k) this means the city clubs in terms of representation on the Cork team are out performing the country.

Its even stronger in Kerry. You beat tourself. I suppose thats the only way you can lose, or win, when you are the only person arguing.

End of debate.

Thats what the expert tell us they are.

Why would i considee your standards when far more qualified people disagree with you.

You are destined for a life of unhappiness due to the eyes with which you view the world.

Kerry have only one town with a population of circa 20k.

I’m including Bishopstown and Douglas in those figures which I would assume swells it up to 200k - stop messing with the figures.

No Bishopstown and Douglas are in the city population.

Sorry about that. On your criteria its 8 players from 120k.

But it does not matter. I am dealing in urban figures. You are dealing with random spurious made up figures.

Ah go away, will you.

The likes of Castleblayney and Ballybay are considered town. They are not urban.

We are talking about genuine urban areas - not small to medium parochial towns with little in the way of diversity. The examples I’ve used to state my case have all been towns with a bare minimum of 20k population.

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Midleton and Clonakilty would be about as diverse as you will find in Ireland. Both below 10k.

Thats your problem. You have not lived. You think a tall building and lots of people is diverse.

Which is all very ironic considering you come from one of the lease diverse places on the planet.

You are not dealing in urban figures, you are dealing in small parochial towns.

I am dealing only with cities and large towns, where GAA really seems to struggle to reflect it’s proportionate population.

Mayo doesn’t have a big urban town or city.
Letterkenny is the only one in Donegal which could be classified as such and it’s at the very bottom scale.
Cookstown is the only one in that sense in Tyrone and it’s around 50% unionist.
Kerry is pretty much the same as Donegal, Tralee is the only town which could be considered a reasonable urban area and it’s at the very lower end of the scale.

These counties all benefit from having reasonably big rural areas to pick and they are four of the top five teams in the country at the minute.

In football terms if you look at the cities.

Derry get zero from Derry City.
I would suspect Galway get very little from Galway City.
Armagh get very little from Lurgan/Craigavon/Portadown which are on each others doorstep and have a combined population of >70k
Louth don’t get anywhere near the proportionate return from Dundalk/Drogheda
I don’t know about Limerick and I don’t know about Cork and I don’t know about Waterford.
Antrim do well out of Belfast but Belfast is pretty much the only nationalist stronghold in county Antrim in anycase - certainly in a footballing sense.

In the O6, GAA seems to struggle on a whole in large urban areas.
It happens in Louth, it seems to happen in Galway - maybe someone can confirm - certainly from a football perspective.
And I don’t know about the 3 big cities in Munster but certainly from the midlands up the GAA seems to struggle to establish itself in the urban areas - hence why counties with big rural populations are the ones who are going well outside of Dublin right now.

A tall building and lots of people is diverse, people in the real world don’t think they know everybody or everything, when you one day fall out of that bubble you’re hovering around in you might realise that.

Waffle.

Thought I instructed you to take you droopy bottom lip and move along.

Really?

The 2015 breakdown is pretty consistent with what you’d find for just about any Cork football team going back over the years. If anything the city representation at just over a third, a bit on the low side? Without ever have any reason to look it at it in any great detail, I’d have assumed that 40-50% of any given Cork team were from the city, maybe 30-40% from west Cork & Duhallow and the remaining 10% from miscellaneous clubs elsewhere in the county. The city make up of the three All Ireland Cork winning teams of 1973, 1989 & 90 that I would have grown up were very much along those lines.

On the 1973 All Ireland winning Cork team, 7 of the starting 15 were from city clubs, Billy Morgan, Frank Cogan, Brian Murphy & Jimmy Barrett (Nemo), Ray Cummins (St Michael’s), Denis Coughlan (St Nicholas) & JBM (St Finbarrs). In 1989, 9 of the starting 15 were from city clubs, John Kerins, Michael Slocum & Dave Barry (St Finbarrs), Stephen O’Brien, Jimmy Kerrigan, Shea Fahy, Dinny Allen (Nemo), Barry Coffey & Paul McGrath (Bishopstown). In 1990, it was 8 of the starting 15, Jimmy Kerrigan & Dinny Allen not starting and Tony Nation (Nemo) in.

This is fucking tragic

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