2017 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

No, I clarified this here:

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Exactly. Alot of what tyrone do as well is shaping. You’d swear Dublin were some kinda fanny boy set up.

Dublin will be patient, will play very wide attacking and force one-on-ones with Tyrones inside backs who actually do foul alot when not covered by the 2-3 sweepers.

I expect Dean Rock to hit 10 points. And it may only be 14 to 9 or something

Brilliant.

You are usually wrong so that’s a positive omen.

Dublin have a tendency to concede a glut of scores within a short time in big games.

2-4 without reply against Kerry in the 13 minutes before half-time last year.

1-4 without reply against Mayo in seven minutes in 2015 and it should have been more.

3-7 to 0-3 against Donegal in 18 minutes in 2014.

Three goals in 13 minutes against Kerry in 2013.

0-9 to 0-1 against Mayo in 18 minutes either side of half-time in 2012.

You could even throw in Mayo’s 0-5 in a row straight after half-time in the drawn final last year and Kildare’s 0-10 in the second quarter of this year’s Leinster final.

Dublin don’t kill teams off in All-Ireland semi-finals or finals, they struggle over them.

Not once have they properly put away a team in a semi-final or final this decade.

Yawn.

Greatest team ever. To be confirmed this year

You’ve very confident for a guy who knows fuck all.

Dublin are obviously one of the greatest teams ever - nobody has said otherwise so take that up with somebody who actually said otherwise.

The point is they have a tendency to concede a glut of scores in a short time in big games, which shows their defence is very fallible. This has happened in the majority of semi-finals and finals they’ve played since 2012.

It’s a very pertinent point given you say they have the best defensive system in the game. That clearly is not the case.

They are certainly beatable.

they also have a tendency to get a glut of scores in a short time. there’ll be very little in this

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I think the only ones who think it’s a foregone conclusion are @caoimhaoin and @thedancingbaby

Dublin will play a lot of keep ball in this game. They’ll go hard for an early lead, even straight for a goal from throw in. If they go 5 or 6 up it’ll be back and forth the midfield line and even back to Cluxton and spectacle and crowd be damned. They will not chance quick turnovers against Tyrone and will make them come out of their defensive shape if Tyrone want to chase the game. I also think Connolly will start.

If either side builds up a 5 or 6 point lead, it’s going to be very difficult to get that back.

The game will be played on Tyrone’s terms though, they won’t adapt at all from their usual gameplan as it’s the opponent who is required to.

It’s a fascinating game as there is no previous Championship encounter to go on between these two sets of players. Tyrone best replicate what Donegal brought when Dublin played them in 2014 and that’s what makes it fascinating.

I have a feeling Sean Cavanagh is going to deliver for us though. I’d say Gavin will assign McMahon to plague him.

Connolly has to start.

The performances of the 2 most unlikeable full-forwards is about to commence. O’Connor will be his customary whining self - throwing snakey digs, falling down and being a cunt generally.

Star will counter with the occasional hefty dig and then throwing the hands to Heaven. It’s a shocking pity that the vintage Meath full back isn’t a direct opponent…

Cunts - both of them…:persevere:

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Chance of rain during tomorrow’s game: 100%.

Who do you think that gives an advantage to?

backing kerry is buying money tomorrow surely

Lads in rainproof gear.

Historically speaking I don’t associate Kerry with being great in wet conditions. Three of their last six defeats at Croke Park in the championship have come on wet days - 2010, 2012 and the 2015 All-Ireland final. They won on a wet day against Tyrone in 2015 and in a monsoon against Galway in 2008.

They lost the 1999 Munster final and the 1982 All-Ireland final in the wet although they did win the finals of 1975 and 1978.

Mayo have historically had a good record in wet conditions.

They drew last year’s All-Ireland final on a wet day and were the better team throughout - but they looked all at sea in the draw against Roscommon this year.

Mayo’s last victory against Kerry came in 1996 and that was played in wet conditions. 1996, coincidentally was the last year none of Cork, Kilkenny and Tipperary contested an All-Ireland hurling final.

That team also won the 1997 All-Ireland semi-final and the 1999 Connacht final in the wet.

Logically you would expect wet conditions to favour the team that carries the ball better - that should be Mayo.

It also could cause havoc in terms of long balls, but might stop Donaghy catching anything.

Kerry will be banking on a big performance from David Moran and Anthony Maher at midfield. A slippery ball could prevent them from making clean catches.

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Then why have Tyrone won fuck all over the last 5 years?

In the same period Dublin have won 7 out of the 10 major titles available. 4 league titles and 3 all-Irelands.

The all Ireland structure makes it harder for Ulster teams

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