Are you suggesting what Dublin have won in the past 5 years will have an influence on next weekendās game? A childlike argument, on a par with Waterford will win the hurling as Galway have never beaten them in championship hurling.
Didnāt stop Donegal in 2012, and Donegal got to the final in 2014.
So thatās a load of bollocks then.
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Did you even read what I posted? Or are you drunk again?
Iām taking Nembo to task about his wild claim that Tyrone have the best defensive system around. There is absolutely no evidence to back this up.
Thereās a stick hurling thread somewhere on here for you to discuss this irrelevant nonsense.
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Stick to the oval ball sports pal, you clearly know nothing about GAA. Tyrone will give your gurriers
bags of it.
Go and prep some veg pal.
Stick one of these up your hole pal 
Kerry have just seven starters tomorrow who started against Dublin in the league final.
Kerry: B Kealy; F Fitzgerald Ā©, M Griffin, R Shanahan; P Murphy (0-01), T Morley, P Crowley; D Moran (0-03, 0-01ā45), J Barry (0-01); D Walsh (0-02), M Geaney (0-02), J Lyne; J Savage (0-01), P Geaney (0-08, 0-04f), K McCarthy (0-01).
Subs used: G Crowley for Lyne (27 mins black), D OāSullivan for Savage (60 mins), BJ Keane for McCarthy (63 mins), B Sheehan (0-01) for Walsh (68 mins), A Maher for Barry (70), A Spillane for M Geaney (72).
A bit of balance is required I feel. You are the guy who is usually right until the quarter/semi finals (which is where Ulster teams usually fail). That suits many of your arguments. However., itās fair to say that youāve had many of your predictions hammered. Tyrone either bottled it against Kerry 2 years ago (they got it back close, missed a few scores and then Kerry ran away) or Kerry had them at arms length and then upped their game when Tyrone came at them.
Last year, they had the game in their hands and then missed a load of scores. Even 14 against 15 they should have won.
I believe theyāre way better this year but itās absolutely reasonable to suggest that they either @) donāt have the forwards against top teams cos theyāve failed the last two years; or b) that The dross of Ulster is no preparation for the task of taking on Dublin. Either way, weāve no idea what will happen and thatās what makes it fantastic.
How did Kerry run away when the game was level and in the melting pot with a few minutes to go?
Tyrone missed a bagful of goal chances when on top and thatās why they lost. They have more reason to be annoyed at not winning that game than the 2016 quarter final defeat to Mayo.
Jim Gavin is 0/1 against the Ulster Champions in an All Ireland semi-final.
Exactly this. Once the game went into the āmelting potā with a few minutes to go Kerry reeled off a few scores and won by 4(four) (ceathar - for the fƬor Gael) points. Iām surprised you forget it.
And Tyrone failed to take the numerous goal chances they created when they were on top.
Looking back, 2015 was a sorer one to take as we played the better football and easily had enough chances to win by 5 or 6 points.
2016 was a pretty evenly matched game where we missed some chances to draw level near the end.
Correct. Statistics donāt lie. Jim Gavinās record needs to be examined.
Jim Gavin is 26/1/1 in championship football including 3(a trĆ) all ireland medals. Itās a measure of the man that heās still losing sleep over the game he lost.
Heās 0/1 against the Ulster Champions.
Heās facing the Ulster Champions.
I agree with all this. Ye shat the pot in a big way both times. The N3 was a dirty mess for weeks after.
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Spot on, but donāt expect that lunatic to recognise the facts.
Tyrone have won fuck all for about 8 or 9 years. The county is more known for producing accomplished dog fighting trainers, gay porn stars and patricidal maniacs than footballers.
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Because the forwards were not good enough. This the team was not good enough.
Logic is not your thing is it
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Of course it matters. But nembo wants to tell us tyrones losses were more of an indication of why they will win than Dublins wins.
It beggars belief.
For whatever it matters, iām judging dublin on this year. They have adjusted things and are even more efficient and now full strength at the right time.
No it just meant they were lacking in one aspect in a given game.
Both those game were decided on fine margins, this is this particular Tyrone sides third season on the trot.
If you contrast with Mayo for example, in their first two seasons they lost convincingly to Kerry in the semi final in 2011 and in 2012 the All Ireland final against Donegal, it was over after about 10 minutes. After that theyāve been nip and tuck with the best teams about.
Thereās not much between Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone and Dublin - the form lines suggest that. Logic also suggests Tyrone should be improving while the others should be stagnating or regressing.
It takes a certain type of obtuseness for you to completely dismiss Tyrone out of hand as you have been wrong doing the same with others and also the fact that you have been proven wrong about Tyrone this year too.
I think Tyrone are savage and have more than a fighters chance. But I still think @Nembo_Kid 's ālogicā is similar to that of my 6 year old child. *
*In fairness, sheās a great debater. She made me give her an extra treat yesterday.
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Based on what?
The bottom line is there is huge question marks about Tyrone, Dublin and Kerry this year as they havenāt had to break sweat in any game. Mayo have had to but the manner in which they had to will also raise serious questions.
Dublin v Tyrone is an unknown and I think Tyrone have the right set up to ask serious questions of them. You donāt think they have a chance but we know its bravado, youāre scared they have and will.