Practice what you preach about honesty. Calling Ireland Johnny Come Lately’s when they were the powerhouse of the International Championship in the 1890’s. Off on a tangent again when you’re pulled up on your lies.
They are the least successful of the traditional 5 nationals sides.
Their recent “success” is very much of a Johnny Come Lately basis, something you need to reconcile yourself with.
Their recent “success” is very much of a Johnny Come Lately basis, something you need to reconcile yourself with.
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A bit like Tyrone in the Bogball
Yes, something Boycott turns his nose up at.
Something he’s also reticent to clarify.
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Gas a tyrone fan calling anyone Johnny Come Latelys. The cunts weren’t mapped until recently and they would have you believe they invented gaelic football now. Apart from an anomalous Down side in the 60s and Antrim 100 years ago Sam maguire was never over the border …and the thick lad banging on about irish rugby being Johnny Come Lately’s
I said Boycott has a problem with Johnny Come Latelys.
It’s a bizarre double standard, all I’ve done is asked Boycott to address it as usual he can’t be honest with the forum.
And I’ve already clarified that Ireland won the International Championship as far back as 1894 and have competed in the International Championship from its inception (unlike France and Italy). So there’s your weak, nonsensical ‘Johnny Come Lately’ excuse for an argument well and truly demolished.
It looks like game set and match but the Harry Kane defence hasn’t been tried in a few hours. 
Incorrect, Ireland are the least successful of the traditional 5 nations sides.
Their recent “success” bucks the trend, why can’t you be honest with the forum?
Good point, Boycott has still refused to address Harry Kane’s failure in Europe despite being called out on it numerous times.
I don’t really understand what you mean by this. Then again, nothing you have said on this thread this afternoon makes any sense.
They have the least success of all the traditional five nations sides (Wales, Scotland, England, France and West Britain).
Grand slams - West Britain have 2, the lowest of all the traditional 5 nations sides.
Outright tournament wins (incorporating Home Nations, Five Nations and Six Nations) - Ireland are lowest of all the traditional 5 nations sides with 13
Triple Crowns - once again Ireland are the lowest here of the four teams in contention, level on Scotland with 10.
However Ireland are the top team when it comes to the wooden spoon, winning it a record 36 times, unfortunately for the West Brits - this is awarded to the worst team.
For a guy who places so much weight in tradition I find it odd you don’t want to consider the undeniable facts that show West Britain are the worst of all the traditional five nations. These facts would suggest that West Britain’s recent “success” has in fact bucked their rightful place in rugby standing but it looks like they are now reverting to type as the whipping boys of Northern Hemisphere rugby.
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Why do you the word traditional in describing France when they only started competing in 1910?
Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England were competing since its inception in 1883, yet you say Ireland are ‘johnny come latelys’ with no tradition.
Bizarre double standards.
That’s a very coherent post based entirely on indisputable facts.
Because there are 5 sides that make up the traditional five nations.
West Britain are traditionally the worst of them, we know how you love tradition.
So you would have to agree that Ireland’s recent “success” bucks the trend and if we apply your tradition based logic, then the logical conclusion is that the Northern Hemisphere’s traditional whipping boys will go back to being shit at rugby football.
That’s of course if you weren’t such a brazen hypocrite.
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Mate, they beat The All Blacks in 1978 1979 & 1980, please be more thorough when you are using wikipedia.
You have a couple of unanswered questions on other threads
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No, I wouldn’t agree. The barren years you are presumably referring to for Ireland are the years between 1951-82 (save for the Championship win of 1974) and post 1985 up to 2000. You’re postings on this thread show you up as someone who knows little or nothing about rugby, so you’ll probably be surprised to hear that rugby only became an officially professional sport in 1995.
What you had for decades before that dating back to the post Second World War Years was unofficial professionalism in France and Wales. England (up until the late 1980’s) and Ireland and Scotland all the way to the bitter end in 1995 remained resolutely amateur. It wasn’t an even playing field. Scotland went from 1938 to 1984 without winning the championship outright. England had a fine team in the late 50’s/early 60’s and after that, bar the bolt from the blue championship win in 1980 didn’t win a championship between 1963 and 1991.
France and Wales in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s dominated the Championship largely because they were professional in all but name. Wales fell away steeply in the 80’s, as the collapse of the coal and steel industry meant the notional employers of their rugby players could no longer sustain this quasi professionalism and there was a mass exodus of rugby players from Wales to rugby league in the North of England throughout the 1980’s. France were largely the dominant force in the 1980’s.
The professional era has meant that Irish rugby players compete on an even footing to their counterparts in England, Wales, France and Scotland. If anything its flipped the other way as the regional structure which was supplanted the traditional clubs in Wales has never been embraced by the Welsh rugby public. In France and England, there is a constant tug of war between the clubs and the governing bodies and in Scotland, the traditional heartland of the game in the Scottish Borders doesn’t have a Pro 12 franchise and there is still a lot of hostility there to professionalism. The IRFU is probably the best run domestic governing body in world rugby and the Irish provinces and the IRFU pull together in the same direction.
Ireland are currently sitting 2nd in the table. If you take results against the whipping boys out of it, 7 of the 8 games in this year’s Championship have been won by the home side - it should have been all 8 as Wales should have beaten England. We won’t win the championship every year, but going back over the last 18 (including this year), we’re there or thereabouts nearly every year and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Since the inception of the Six Nations in 2000, Ireland have gone through at least 3 if not 4 different team cycles and kept up a fairly consistent level year on year. The overall chart reads finishes of 3, 2, 3, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 4, 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 1, 1, 3 and 2 (going into final round of games in 2017).
So no in conclusion, I wouldn’t agree with your latest dumb assertion.
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You don’t agree with facts?
Bizarre Boycott.
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