Maybe Mayo will play in a final without conceding early or multiple goals to put your theory to the test
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The more I think about that sneaky grip/pull move Ruane committed , the weirdo should get a 6 month ban at a minimum
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Scoring goals doesnât seem to help them either. The only two finals they scored more than one goal in were 2004 and 2006.
They scored 2 in 16 too
They didnât need to take every chance IMO. If they had scored the pen would have been a momentum shift, opposite of that though the accumulation of misses just drained momentum and meant they didnât put Tyrone under any pressure. It was a most woeful collapse. They didnât deserve anything out of the game. And Tyrone may have won anyway but they didnât land a punch to test them
Fair enough. But again thatâs working on the assumption that Tyrone wouldnât have responded or upped their game at all themselves. The what ifs work for both sides surely. Tyrone had a plan. They had half backs breaking and scoring, they had McShane on and immediately found him for his goal while isolating the Mayo defence and they looked comfortable in defensive possession throughout. Mayo had their ârunning gameâ. Nothing else. Itâs like Blackadder tactics. Keep running at the opposition no matter how many times they murder you.
He stopped a shot going wide in the semi final though, can live off that for a while
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Running tactics created two clear goal chances in the second half for Mayo and a plethora of other missed point chances. Thatâs separate from the penalty and the two clear goal chances which were created by making space in behind the Tyrone full back line in the first half. They had more than enough chances to win the match quite comfortably.
Mayoâs problem was finishing and that was down to psychology. It wasnât as if they were shooting from ridiculous positions either, they were shooting from the places you are supposed to shoot from, whereas it Tyrone who landed low percentage shots with Hampseyâs and McGearyâs points in the first half.
Again, matches depend on events. After 50 minutes of the Connacht final Mayo had got back level and Damien Comer punched a high ball against the crossbar from close range. Mayo gathered the rebound and Kevin McLoughlin stuck it over the bar. Mayo went on to win well. Would they have done so if Comer had stuck that goal chance and put Galway three points up again? Would they have won against Dublin if Basquel had stuck his goal chance and put Dublin seven points up with a quarter of the match left?
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Dublin will win at least 3 of next 5 AIs
Agreed. Not saying otherwise. Mayo didnât test it though is the most disappointing thing
I think it was mentioned a few times here before but the All-Ireland final being scheduled for July 17th next year - as well as the likelihood of working from home during Covid going as society reopens - will suit Dublin and inconvenience other teams because it means itâs harder especially for the likes of Mayo and Donegal who would have a high proportion of players based outside the county to keep their players together in the winter and spring months and you get less time to build it up during the summer months and the longer nights, whereas Dublin can keep all their players together during the winter.
But in bare football terms Dublin are well beatable now.
Character and comradeship is built on them bus journeys back from training in mayo and Donegal for the Dublin based players ⌠Dublin donât have that ⌠lads are gone away home on their own after training âŚ
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The scheduling for next yearâs Championships is such a farce.
In hurling, the Munster round robin is set to start in late April and run right through the month of May - College Exam season. I have already heard reports that one of Tipperaryâs best prospects wont be able to commit to Inter County next season because of this and can see the same thing happening right across the country in both codes.
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@Cheasty Fair play. You went in hard on Mayo pregame, were bang wrong and are working like a Tyrone footballer too SidSplain your way out of it. Your basic theory of âevents change gamesâ is indeed true but yet again, all the things that supposedly could have happened in your mind benefit Mayo. None of your âthis may have happenedâ benefits Tyrone. Essentially your argument is your auntie should have a set of bollocks and should be your uncle. And itâs not fair.
Edit. This is for @Cheasty not scumpot.
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Impossible to build character and comradeship driving home alone in your sponsored jeep thing.
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The original scheduling for 2021 had the All-Ireland Hurling Final on July 11th and the Football Final on July 18th.
The first Sunday of 2021 was January 3rd and the first Sunday of 2022 is January 2nd, so the week numbers are the same.
If youâre to presume that the Hurling Final for 2022 is down for July 10th and the Football Final on July 17th, I donât see how the hurling provincial round robins start any later than April 10th.
April can be very cold, people are not used to championship action at that time of the year, there are a lot of competing television sporting attractions at that time of the year and youâd imagine it will do nothing at all for attendances.
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So you admit Iâm correct in my analysis of what happened. Thanks. I correctly flagged the psychological aspect of it for Mayo beforehand by the way. That was always going to be the hardest thing to overcome for them. It wasnât tactics.
The second half performances from Mayo against Dublin and Tyrone were pretty similar.
In the second half of the Mayo - Dublin game, Dublin only kicked 3 points - they butchered a number of poor wides youâd expect them to score. Mayo hit 9 points. Mayo hit 4 of those in the closing 10 minutes or so in the second half and a lot of them were high % big boomer scores that donât always come off.
In the second half against Tyrone, Mayo hit 7 points, they relied an awful lot of close range frees, their shooting was forced and had an air of desperation about it. Iâm thinking of the ones from OâDonoghue, Coen, Flynn etc where they werenât really on. Conroy and Walsh should have pointed when they went for goal.
Tyrone were a bit like Dublin in the second half where they were missing fairly routine scoring chances, McShane missed an easy free, McKenna missed an easy mark, Sludden had a very bad wide from close range, McKenna had another very bad wide youâd expect him to score and McCurry put one wide off his right youâd expect him to get. The difference between Dublin and Tyrone though was Tyrone played with that bit more intent and created goal chances and took them.
Mayo played more or less the same against both Tyrone and Dublin in the second half, they gave great honesty of effort but they relied on the opposition being wasteful in front of the posts and were reliant on high % chances. They are too one dimensional.
They have now lost convincingly in the past 3 AIs under Horan, 2019 and 2020 against Dublin and 2021 against Tyrone. They just donât have the same quality they had in the years before that. Boyle, Higgins, Clarke, Vaughan, Moran, Barrett, Parsons, SOS, Doherty are all gone or didnât feature this year and the likes of McLoughlin and Diarmuid OâConnor arenât at the level they used be at.
They have brought in good new players like Mullin, McLaughlin, Conroy and OâDonoghue but theyâre in transition and I think they are carrying too many at present, you wonât win an All Ireland with the likes of Plunkett, McHale or Walsh starting IMO.
Thatâs a fair response but mayo did create more than enough chances for it to at least have been much closer. You could say to win but your point about Tyrone responding is fair. And Tyrone always looked comfortable and controlled, I sure theyâd have had a response in them.
But mayo did have the chances and as they fluffed them they lost more and more energy and conviction and got worse and worse.
I remember a retired Limerick player talking about how Limerick used to play on emotion, and that that can drive incredible performances and upsets sometimes but isnât reliable. That all changed with the current team. I think mayo are like the old Limerick. Those shots go over and they grow and attack in waves and keep coming, they didnât against Tyrone and the confidence and emotion and conviction drained out of them.
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