It doesn’t matter who won, we’ve been the real losers here
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I’ve said what I’ve had to say, I’m not spending any more time arguing with two biased idiots.
Difficult to determine who won since I can’t even decipher what they are arguing about.
Something about Republican votes, something about Sinn Fein and FF, something about Donegal and border regions
The fact that Sinn Fein have made gains at the expense of Fianna Fail as a result of the FF vote in border areas being of a more traditional republican base.
Another thing to remember that when the Anti H Block candidates got voted in during the 1981 election it was at the expense of Fianna Fail candidates.
There is nowhere near the same baggage for border region FF votes to switch to SF. That is represented in fact.
SF made the big gains off the FF drop in the last general election in the border regions.
FG and Labour made the big gains off the FF drop in the rest of the country.
Kong Holocaust Denier argues against this.
I told him he was wrong because he said that SF made huge gains in Donegal last time out because the republican voters changed from voting FF to voting SF.
I pointed out that they made gains because everyone up here was pissed off with the establishment, sick of being unemployed and disillusioned with FG and Labour, along with FF, that was why SF made the gains.
Then he exploded into one of his usual streams of mad rhetoric and selective statistics to back up his made up mantras.
The statistics prove my argument correct. If your argument was right the SF gain on FF votes would not be three times the national average in the border regions.
You have nothing substantive toward your argument. You have failed.
How were voters in Donegal disillusioned with Labour and Fine Gael, pal? Both increased their vote in Donegal last time round
Yes they picked up votes from FF but not as much as they should have based on the rest of the country.
I’m not arguing with you further on this as you have no interest in a debate based on logic. You just want to spout selected stats that suit you.
Because of the republican angle, as was the case in the other two constituencies that are on the border.
Now once again, why did the border regions have a swing from FF to SF of three times the national average?
The anti-establishment vote is something you have had to reach for and it crumbles in front of the facts.
No it doesn’t.
I’m not going down the same route again with someone as close-minded and biased as you.
It does.
Once again. Why was the FF to SF swing three times the national average in the border regions?
A question you continue to hide from.
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This is the very last time I’ll say it.
The support for SF in Donegal was already higher than in the rest of the country.
The voters were pissed off with the other ‘traditional’ governmental parties FG Labour and, with the tendency to vote anti establishment up here rearing it’s head among widespread unemployment and austerity, they voted SF.
Now, don’t ask me to repeat this again. This is about the 20th time I’ve pointed this out to you at this point.
Once again.
Why is the FF to SF swing three times the national average in the border regions?
You’re an idiot.
If they were pissed off at Labour and FG then why did both parties increase their vote count in the last election.
You’re presenting an extremely weak argument and want out.
Did you spend all your time in education refusing to learn what they were teaching you as well?
But you said they were pissed off at FG and Labour. Parties who the electorate are pissed off at don’t increase their votes. The fact you are using this as one of your main points shows how fundamentally flawed your argument is.
Idiot.
Busted flush.
The fact they they increase by a smaller per cent that elsewhere was because…to state one last and final time…
Obviously not every last individual did this but the vast majority did.
That point will, no doubt, be completely lost on you.