If you were a kid in Gaza around 15 or 16 considering the israeli terror you would have grown up under what do you think you would do? I reckon joining or supporting Hamas and getting hold of a rifle to have a pop at any Israeli or firing rockets would be right at the top of the list.
Have you a way out of there mickee or does work dictate you staying throughout this unrest?
This is the nub of it my friend and something that the Americans seem incapable or unwilling to understand. Itâs the big bully syndrome. There is a fight, the bigger and more powerful person wins, then takes everything belonging the loser, humiliating them and depriving them of basic human rights and then canât understand why that person continues to fight to get out of that situation.
As Israelis are generally dispicable people, I think the only fair thing to do would be to offer all of them visas and airline tickets to the US and then just wipe out whoever stays behind and return the area to itâs rightful owners.
ah yeah , i can go to the airport and leave whenever i want but i have someone else to think about now so its not so simple, i can work remotely anyway and dont need to be onsit all the time so its ok,
last nights rocket in Rishon and the bus a while ago are a bit stressful and if we get any more of these we;ll consider heading out till it calms down anyway as the athmosphere is very tense.
latest developements is that the police are chasing another female suicide bomber around tel aviv and all exits to the city on the ayalon highway have been closed, she is believed to be heading to the azrieli shopping mall near ha - qirya, weâll find out soon enough i guess
thats true but also many of these kids have seen their mothers and sisters raped in front of them by the same hamas organisation to ensure they do sign up and or use their bedroom as a weapons storage facility.
what is happening in gaza is very wrong to the civilian population, as is the barrage of rockets on southern israel on an hourly basis but unfortunatly until we see the end of hamas i just cannot see a solution as both sides contineu to play hardball at the expense of civialin lives
Hope everything will be OK for you Mickee.
cheers,
yeah things are fine, we had another tzeva adom ( rocket warning) over work just now so it was drop everything, run to the canteen and all out again
hopefully itâll pass soon enough
athletico bilbao are refusing to travel to kiryat shmona for the UEFA cup game on thursday due to the situation, cant blame them i suppose
[size=3]http://www.independeâŚns-8335881.html[/size]
[size=3]MARK STEEL[/size]
[size=3]Tuesday 20 November 2012[/size]
[size=3]Stop pretending Israelâs massacre in Gaza is part of an even battle with Hamas and the Palestinians[/size]
[size=3]On one side youâve got three generations of a family wiped out. On the other, a womanâs got to ring Autoglass. And we act like this is battle whose fate is in the balance[/size]
[size=3]To start with, why do the news channels ask Tony Blair for his advice on conflict in the Middle East? Itâs like asking Gary Glitter for advice on what to do about Jimmy Savile.[/size]
[size=3]But somehow it fits with the rest of the coverage. A report yesterday morning began with the sentence: âRockets have continued to be fired from both sidesâŚâ Then, to illustrate this, we saw a demolished building in Gaza in which 11 people had perished, and a woman in Israel standing next to her car with a smashed windscreen. Which goes to show everyoneâs suffering, what with three generations of a family getting wiped out on one side, and a woman having to ring Autoglass on the other. Honestly, theyâre all as bad as each other.[/size]
[size=3]By tomorrow, a spokesman for Israel will be on the news channels saying: âNo other country would put up with this. We have citizens worried about losing no claims bonuses. If we donât flatten their cities, what will we have to put up with next? Broken wing mirrors? Dents in passenger doors? Have you tried getting body repairs in Tel Aviv at short notice? So we have no choice but to destroy a hospital.â[/size]
[size=3]Then weâll see the funeral for the Palestinians, followed by the car owner wailing âO my beautiful laminated darlingâ as her windscreen gets tipped into a bin. [/size]
[size=3]The reason so many get killed, says Benjamin Netanyahu, is that Hamas âhides behind civiliansâ. Because itâs the duty of anyone who gets assassinated to make sure theyâre in a clear, open space at all times so the cruise missile aimed at them doesnât bump into anyone else. Thatâs basic health and safety, that is.[/size]
[size=3]But Hamas have become even more cunning in this conflict, because the commander the Israelis were aiming at in the building in which those 11 civilians were killed wasnât there at all. At least if heâd bothered to be where the Israelis thought he was, the civilians would have died for a reason. Now, because he had the cheek to NOT hide behind civilians, theyâve been killed for nothing. Thereâs no end to their devilish methods is there? [/size]
[size=3]But some Israelis are working for a solution. For example ex-Prime Minister Ariel Sharonâs son, Gilad, wrote in The Jerusalem Post: âTo accomplish victory, you need to achieve what the other side canât bear. The Americans didnât stop with Hiroshima â the Japanese werenât surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too. There should be no electricity in Gaza, no gasoline or moving vehicles, nothing.â[/size]
[size=3]Even if they did drop a nuclear bomb, Netanyahu would say: âThe reason so many were killed is Hamas hid Gaza behind its civilians. If theyâd moved Gaza to somewhere safe like Greenland, the population would hardly notice a thing, but, as usual, Hamas cared only about propaganda.â[/size]
[size=3]Then The Jerusalem Post would report âWeâve done Gaza a huge favour. Now none of their vehicles can move, so theyâre spared the misery of trying to repair a broken windscreen.â[/size]
That is a pretty shit article in fairness :rolleyes:
+1
anything that is published in the english version of the jerusalem post should be taken with a pinch of salt as along with israel ha-yom ( sheldon adelsonâs rag) it is only a forum for right wing nuts to vent,
What about the comments from the Israeli Deputy PM Eli Yishai who said: [font=Georgia]âThe goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages. Only then will Israel be calm for forty years.â[/font]
have you received your call-up papers yet?
i guess it sums up what both governments are thinking of each other right now, the head of hamas also instructed the people of Gaza to engage in celbratory gunfire and that âHamas welcomes the martyrdom operationâ after a bunch of people going about their business on the 12 o clock bus in Tel Aviv were seriosly injured by a bombâŚ
i didnt see where Yishai said that even tho as a member of the Shas party i wouldnt put it past him⌠as i said earlier both sides in this dispute will continue to play hardball at the expense of civilians and use their propaganda tools like the JP, Al jazeera and al aqsa TV and israel hayom to fuel the hatred⌠Ahmedinajad must be pissing himself laughing at this here as he provided hamas with the Faj missiles via sudan to fire at israel,
Morsi and Erdogan have gone back into their boxes of late, when the Palistinians really needed them all they could do is provide lip service and this really personfifies how all the arab states for all their bullshit really couldnt give a fuck about the Palistinians and Hamas and are happy for israel to deal with them.
i cant see this been resolved, the rockets keep on coming coming down and the IAF are blowing up random parts of gaza city, its hard to know whether hamas are trying to provoke netanyahu to order a ground invasion or not at this stage⌠its a bit like 2 bald men fighting over a comb now
for what?
for to defend the country, arenât the reservists being call up?
yes 75,000 were called up
ok, so Hilary brokers a ceasefire giving both sides the customary 2 hours to fire off whatever excess ammo they have.
pleasantries ceased 1 minute 
before the 9pm deadline that was announced 2 hours before,
i presume thats it till after the election or until hamas restock their Fajr rockets
i heard a boom from the south and galgalatz ( radio station) just confirmed a grad fell on AshdodâŚ
ok, right now âtzeva adomâ alarm in rishon le ziyyon, thats 10km from tel aviv, im in Holon so it wont be far away from us soon, ceasefire my hole
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i presume thats it till after the election or until hamas restock their Fajr rockets[/quote]
The current supply must be from a pound shop.