A new low for Israel. How low can they go?

Cheasty · October 19, 2024, 10:21am

A lot of seven year olds in Gaza won’t be 22 or 27 in 15 or 20 years’ time.

StoneCold · October 19, 2024, 10:06pm

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1847507345967858104?t=-VZ29zpv0pW4MqBpBM9w9Q&s=19

Inshallah

Turenne · October 20, 2024, 12:58am

Cheasty · October 20, 2024, 9:59am

“Exterminate”

2h ago09.29 CEST

Israeli strike on Gaza multi-storey residential building kills 73 people - officials

Hello and welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of Israel’s wars on Gaza and Lebanon.

In northern Gaza, an Israeli airstrike hit several houses and a multi-storey residential building in the town of Beit Lahiya in northern Gaza on Saturday night, killing at least 73 people, officials said.

The Hamas media office said at least 73 people had been killed. Medway Abbas, a senior health ministry official, said these figures were accurate. There were also reports of more potential casualties trapped under rubble in the densely populated area.

Palestinian health officials said rescue operations were being hampered by the cut-off telecommunication and internet services that have been down for a second day.

Cheasty · October 20, 2024, 10:02am

What Israel is doing to Palestinians and Lebanese is a sexual thrill for the far right in Europe and the US. Unimpeded genocide is their biggest fantasy.

https://twitter.com/ChrChristensen/status/1847940823289094296

Cheasty · October 21, 2024, 1:12pm

There aren’t nearly enough Nazi comparisons in public discourse (cc: of @Horsebox).

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1848335385845256212

Cheasty · October 21, 2024, 9:53pm

@Horsebox if you could explain to me why Israel and its propagandists themselves use the same language as anti-Semites that would be great thanks.

https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1848480990521389260

Iggy · October 21, 2024, 11:01pm

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1848443381397262372

cowpat · October 22, 2024, 8:22am

Horrible people. Nutters. Like all fanatics, horrible cunts.

Feech_La_Manna · October 22, 2024, 9:21am

Luckily their repugnant ideology holds no real influence and lacks political representation… Imagine the consequences if it did—especially if it were backed unconditionally by the most powerful military force in the world …

Cheasty · October 22, 2024, 12:54pm

This is bloodlust @Horsebox. I challenge you to respond if you consider this comment anti-Semitic.

jellyfish · October 22, 2024, 1:39pm

Savages, and they don’t even try to hide it.

Cheasty · October 22, 2024, 1:50pm

They flaunt it.

Cheasty · October 22, 2024, 2:24pm

https://twitter.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1848708103212085373

glasagusban · October 22, 2024, 2:38pm

They’re targeting branches of a Hezbollah linked bank. They issued warnings to people telling them to get 500m away from branches of the bank then started strikes on them. A bank is not a legitimate target. They didn’t even bother to pretend there were arms caches in the banks or tunnels under them or fighters or whatever other bullshit.

They are absolutely out of control and there is no restraint on them.

cowpat · October 22, 2024, 3:54pm

When will we see all these tunnels in the Gaza strip?

Cheasty · October 22, 2024, 5:24pm

The whole of this segment is well worth a read or a watch beyond the bit I’ve quoted here.

Israel itself is trivialising the Holocaust for cynical, genocidal gain.

I think the first thing that we — what we need to understand, and I think we have seen this in the clips and in your previous interview, is that though the Israeli government likes to frame everything that is happening now as a response to October 7th, this is a preexisting agenda. I mean, this is the settler movement, Ben-Gvir. I mean, all of these figures have always wanted Gaza depopulated. They’ve always wanted to settle Gaza. They’ve always believed it is part of so-called Greater Israel. So does Netanyahu. It’s part of their coalition agreement dating back to 2022 — right? — that they want the whole thing, and also the West Bank, by the way.

So, you know, I’ve written before about how states of shock are often exploited very cynically to ram through a preexisting agenda. And I think that’s absolutely what we’re seeing. But in order for that to work, the state of shock needs to be continued, heightened. There can never be a recovery. So the Israeli society needs to be reshocked and kept in this kind of trauma loop. And that’s what this piece about the kind of trauma industry is about.

And I want to be very clear: People have a right to grieve their loved ones. This is not about families gathering in grief. This is not about the right to remember and honor. It’s about state-orchestrated and -manipulated trauma. It’s a memorialization from above — right? — not from below, for a very specific end. And people in the Netanyahu government have been very clear that really what they’re doing with the way they are telling the story of October 7th is creating what they call a new national identity. And it’s a national identity that uses the trauma of that day to create a story that fuses October 7th with the Holocaust, and then uses that as the excuse for the genocide that we’re seeing right now.

So, you know, when we think about the horrors, that you’ve already outlined today on the show and, frankly, every show — right? — the deliberate starvation, the torment of an entire population, the torture of an entire population, the deliberate humiliation — how do you — and I think we all ask ourselves this question: How are people able to rationalize it? Right? And they’re able to rationalize it because within their information bubbles, they are being fed this constant story of “this is what they did to you,” a whole industry of reexperiencing it.

I mean, what I write about in this piece is all of these immersive, so-called memorialization kind of technologies, so it’s not only people in Israel, but in the diaspora, who are encouraged to put on VR goggles and reexperience October 7th as if it happened to them, immersive tunnels where you can go into the Gaza tunnels. It’s really an attempt to transfer trauma far and wide.

And in a state of trauma, you don’t really think. It’s pure emotion. It’s pure reaction. You can’t be analytical. You’re not going to be empathetic towards others. It’s about monsterizing the other and fusing your identity with the people in those houses, at the Nova music festival, in the tunnels. It’s very deliberate. It’s extremely manipulative. And it’s how you turn off any compassion or empathy or sense of ethics or morals.

BruidheanChaorthainn · October 22, 2024, 5:30pm

Kamala Harris is the only person that’ll put manners on these cunts

Cheasty · October 22, 2024, 5:36pm

This tweet sums up up one of the extremely disappointing knock on effects of Israel’s genocide. The silence of scholars of genocide themselves. Timothy Snyder is clearly one of the people being referred to in it.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1848411070991417644

The brilliant passage I quote in the above post could nearly now apply to Timothy Snyder himself as regards his silence on Israel.

Perez2017 · October 22, 2024, 9:16pm

Anyone watch the Al Jazera documentary on war crimes in Gaza? Harrowing stuff.