A new low for Israel. How low can they go?

When the people of this world realise that all forms of religion are a pile of bollocks then the world will be a safer place. Organised religion is first and foremost a money making scam and dangerous social propoganda next. The heads of organised religion are unaccountable and hypocritical. There are kids in world starving to death and Ratzinger lives in a palace in Rome. To take it back to Ireland, the Ryan report should have finished the Catholic Church in the country yet people and schools gladly subsidies the pay out for the institutional sexual abuse that the disgusting institution perpetuated over generations. There isnā€™t a scrap of evidence that suggests any god existed.

Rant over

With Israel - my view.

Sid you have made some good points apart from the one about Murdoch which is self defeating. Fisk and them have their agendas too.

The whole idea of setting up Israel was grotesque but its there 60 years plus so it isnā€™t going to go away.

I donā€™t know why Israel themselves arenā€™t looking to implement a lasting settlement. I havenā€™t seen their defence bill but its bound to be astronomical. This never ending cycle of violence is costly and isnā€™t exactly international investment friendly. Adams had the right idea in Northern Ireland - there is more chance of a lasting settlement if you can convince the other side that they will be looked after rather than booting them out.

The Arab world is not some idyllic utopia. It is a very dangerous place where human rights abuses are widespread and the rights of women are non existent. How many of those idiotic fools get crushed to death each year when they throw stones at a wall? Suicide bombers and thousands of virgins. What a crock of shit. Insane

The Israeli land grad has its roots in Hitlerā€™s lebensraum. Ironic that the man who sought to destroy them is the philosophy behind their growth in land mass.

Why do right minded Jews or anyone want to live in Israel and have these acts committed in their name? Surely there is more to life than money?

Mickee, what do you work at in Israel. Iā€™m intrigued. They have obviously some very clever people involved in their industries. PM me if necessary.

Why the fuck are Israel allowed to take part in Uefa competitions?

i refuse to believe this mickee cunt is irish no irish man or woman could ever conform to this shit ever

im not conforming to anything,
i entered into the discusssion with the 2 lads WYT and WTB who want to have a fair and reasoned debate and i tried to give a viewpoint from a right wing extremist israeli perspective (not my own) as many viewpoints on this debate are painting Hamas to be the victim 100%,
i never said i supported it or any other actions yesterday,
unfortunately it is the minority of nutters o both sides who do the damage so in order to find out how to fix this u have to understand what both sides want.

Mickiee would there be many dissenting voices over there on the israeli side?

Mickee - out of interest, are you due to go back out there or are you home for good? Would you have any doubts about going back there?

ffs :rolleyes:

oh the ironing of it

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An American solidarity activist was shot in the face with a tear gas canister during a demonstration in Qalandiya, today. Emily Henochowicz is currently in Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem undergoing surgery to remove her left eye, following the demonstration that was held in protest to Israelā€™s murder of at least 10 civilians aboard the Gaza Freedom Flotilla in international waters this morning.

21-year old Emily Henochowicz was hit in the face with a tear gas projectile fired directly at her by an Israeli soldier during the demonstration at Qalandiya checkpoint today. Israeli occupation forces fired volleys of tear gas at unarmed Palestinian and international protesters, causing mass panic amongst the demonstrators and those queuing at the largest checkpoint separating the West Bank and Israel.

The Irish government have stepped up the rhetoric with respect to both the Rachel Corrie and the detainees. The question is whether or not they are actually willing to back the talk up with action. Iā€™d expect not.

Israel are taking names now.

why Israel was right

  • These ā€œaid workersā€ were deliberately trying to break a blockade of Gaza, put in place because of thousands of terrorist attacks on innocent Israeli civilians.

  • The ship was sponsored and manned by a shady ā€œpro-Israeliā€ violence organisation.

  • Maritime Law actually allows you to stop vessels believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture".

  • These ā€œaid workersā€ could have pulled into port, and not tried to breach the blockade or when stopped they could have peacefully surrendered, instead they chose to attack armed soldiers with iron bars, home-made firebombs and knives. You could argue they deserve to be shot for this stupidity alone.

Thereā€™s a pretty grim video available on line that shows Rachel Corrie herself being killed by the Israelis.

Their brutality is shocking, especially when you compare their actions to what we considered to be extreme acts by the Brits in the North. It was (rightly) considered an outrage here when the British blinded a child with a plastic bullet. In just the four years 2000-2004 the Israelis shot dead 621 Palestinian children. 621. Two-thirds of them were killed by shots to the head, neck, and upper chest. Sniper kills in other words. Itā€™s just savagery.

Your scum, and hopefully weā€™ll be able to fly you in the day they nuke the place. Burn the whole lot together and be done with it ta fuck.

Israel is a wart on planet earth.

your lack of academia really shows up in threads like this

Ya ya ya. Same old bull shit. Iā€™m more qualified to talk about it than you could ever imagine.

Loser.

back in the day when the russians were shipping a potentially similar cargo to Cuba the US governemnt threatened them with extreme force and they backed down.
i wonder if the russians continued with their jouney would uncle sam have launched a ā€œpre-emptitiveā€ strike in international waters on the vessel?

thats just something to have a think about,

Thats an absolutely outrageous comparison.

Iā€™m looking to see if i can get your Corkness deleted, your a disgrace to be making excuses for these vagrants.

im not too sure mac,
TBH , living in tel aviv or haifa you try to turn a total blind eye to this.
people just try get on with their lives, most people under 35 i know dont give a shit and just want peace, they are tired of this stuff and cannot understand the european obsession with israel.
yesterday sky showed an jewish knacker in ashdod verbally abusing 2 arab women going about their business, i suppose this gets viewers, im quite sure at the same time there was a group of arab and jewish lads playing a game of 5 a side on the beach in Haifa or a couple of arab and jewish hot chicks flaunting it in tyhe sun
they never bother with this tho.
i think the young people call themselves israeli, they dont care about arab or jew, ive dated arab and jewish girls and have mates from both sets and these guys all just get on.
its disappointing to see all this TBH, its an amazing country with a crazy diversity and living there is never boring but sometimes it is impossible not to feel on edge all the time