When Celtic win this seasonâs league, the last 30 titles will have been split between just two sides. Is there a parallel for such a duopoly of dominance anywhere else in world football? In light of Rangers disbandment in 2012, its now a monopoly. Celticâs winning margin over the last three seasons has been 29, 16 & 20 points.
There was more of a competitive edge when the christians went into the colosseum to face the lions.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1100894, member: 377â]When Celtic win this seasonâs league, the last 30 titles will have been split between just two sides. Is there a parallel for such a duopoly of dominance anywhere else in world football? In light of Rangers disbandment in 2012, its now a monopoly. Celticâs winning margin over the last three seasons has been 29, 16 & 20 points.
There was more of a competitive edge when the christians went into the colosseum to face the lions.[/QUOTE]
Dynamo Kiev & Shaktar have won something like the last 20 odd Ukrainian leagues between them.
The fact that Donetsk is not really in the Ukraine anymore might hinder this going forward though.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1100820, member: 377â]I missed all the action as I was at the rugby in Lansdowne Road.
A bump on the road for Aberdeen indeed but Iâve no doubt theyâll take defeat on the chin and thereâll be none of the the kind of carry on you see elsewhere after defeat, setting off of flares, haranguing match officials or indeed racially abusing opposition players.[/QUOTE]
Thatâs why I went to the trouble of posting the highlights for your viewing pleasure.
Just as an FYI information and to assist with your climb up the learning curve - Aberdeen had a player sent off for foul and abusive language to match officials after the final whistle when Celtic defeated them with a last minute goal at Pittodrie earlier this season.
FAO of @Manuel Zelaya:
An Aberdeen supporter has been suspended by his employer for sending a sectarian tweet to Celtic striker Leigh Griffiths on Sunday: http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/local/aberdeen-recruitment-worker-suspended-over-sectarian-tweet-to-celtic-striker-1.846070
Another Aberdeen supporter has been charged by police for abusing young Celtic supporter Wee Jay Beatty on twitter:
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/508366/police-charge-19-year-old-tweet-abusing-11-year-old-celtic-fan-downs-syndrome/
Combine that with other past events such as the aforementioned post-match sending off, their manager fighting opposition coaches on the touchline and their own players brawling with each other on the pitch and itâs clear that Aberdeen and their supporters arenât as virtuous as your claims suggested.
[QUOTE=âBandage, post: 1101260, member: 9â]FAO of @Manuel Zelaya:
An Aberdeen supporter has been suspended by his employer for sending a sectarian tweet to Celtic striker Leigh Griffiths on Sunday: http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/local/aberdeen-recruitment-worker-suspended-over-sectarian-tweet-to-celtic-striker-1.846070
Another Aberdeen supporter has been charged by police for abusing young Celtic supporter Wee Jay Beatty on twitter:
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/508366/police-charge-19-year-old-tweet-abusing-11-year-old-celtic-fan-downs-syndrome/
Combine that with other past events such as the aforementioned post-match sending off, their manager fighting opposition coaches on the touchline and their own players brawling with each other on the pitch and itâs clear that Aberdeen and their supporters arenât as virtuous as your claims suggested.[/QUOTE]
After two days of trawling the internet thatâs what youâve up with on Aberdeen fans? Aberdeen Football Club is responsible for the actions of a few lone crackpot keyboard warriors?
I donât recall hearing of any hooliganism or rioting from Aberdeen fans after Sundayâs defeat which all but ended their championship challenge. Contrast that to the type of shameful thuggery we all too frequently see from Glasgow Celtic fans when they lose big games - ranging from throwing and hitting referee Hugh Dallas with coins and rioting the day Rangers won the league at Celtic Park in 1999 to the carry on at the San Siro last week.
Before the recent league cup semi final, we had this sickening attack by a mob of Celtic supporting yobs on a young 10 year old Rangers fan.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1101269, member: 377â]After two days of trawling the internet thatâs what youâve up with on Aberdeen fans? Aberdeen Football Club is responsible for the actions of a few lone crackpot keyboard warriors?
I donât recall hearing of any hooliganism or rioting from Aberdeen fans after Sundayâs defeat which all but ended their championship challenge. Contrast that to the type of shameful thuggery we all too frequently see from Glasgow Celtic fans when they lose big gains - ranging from throwing and hitting referee Hugh Dallas with coins and rioting the day Rangers won the league at Celtic Park in 1999 to the carry on at the San Siro last week.
Before the recent league cup quarter final, we had this sickening attack by a mob of Celtic supporting yobs on a young 10 year old Rangers fan.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-31091808[/QUOTE]
It wasnât an internet trawl - the incidents have been widely reported in the immediate game aftermath.
You take issue at Aberdeen being held accountable for loose cannons acting alone but donât appear to take a consistent stance with Celtic supporters.
Seems odd to revert back to a 1999 coin throwing incident involving a Celtic supporter but neglect to mention Aberdeen supporters pelting the Celtic manager with coins and forcing him to leave the League Cup semi-final at Tynecastle a mere couple of years ago.
Youâre not very familiar with Aberdeen, which is fine, but itâs rather silly to make sweeping and incorrect statements about them.
I didnât intend to engage in whataboutery and I donât agree with / condone everything every individual Celtic supporter does (we have a worryingly increasing Jocko / Scottish element to add to our core Irish support in fact).
Rather my aim was to educate you about Aberdeen who you seemed to be placing on an undeserved pedestal for ethical player, management and fan behaviour. Clearly the range of examples cited by myself shows this was folly on your behalf.
[QUOTE=âBandage, post: 1101273, member: 9â]It wasnât an internet trawl - the incidents have been widely reported in the immediate game aftermath.
You take issue at Aberdeen being held accountable for loose cannons acting alone but donât appear to take a consistent stance with Celtic supporters.
Seems odd to revert back to a 1999 coin throwing incident involving a Celtic supporter but neglect to mention Aberdeen supporters pelting the Celtic manager with coins and forcing him to leave the League Cup semi-final at Tynecastle a mere couple of years ago.
Youâre not very familiar with Aberdeen, which is fine, but itâs rather silly to make sweeping and incorrect statements about them.
I didnât intend to engage in whataboutery and I donât agree with / condone everything every individual Celtic supporter does (we have a worryingly increasing Jocko / Scottish element to our core Irish support in fact).
Rather my aim was to educate you about Aberdeen who you seemed to be placing on an undeserved pedestal for ethical player, management and fan behaviour. Clearly the range of examples cited by myself shows this not to be the case.[/QUOTE]
The 1999 reference is apt. To the best of my knowledge it was the last time that Celtic lost what was effectively a title deciding game at Celtic Park. Rangers comprehensive win that day saw them clinch the title. There were understandable policing and public safety concerns as to what could have happened on Sunday if Celtic lost to Aberdeen. Whatever about monopolies and lack of competition, maybe its just as well Celtic did win.
Those scenes from 1999 are just sickening.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1101269, member: 377â]After two days of trawling the internet thatâs what youâve up with on Aberdeen fans? Aberdeen Football Club is responsible for the actions of a few lone crackpot keyboard warriors?
I donât recall hearing of any hooliganism or rioting from Aberdeen fans after Sundayâs defeat which all but ended their championship challenge. Contrast that to the type of shameful thuggery we all too frequently see from Glasgow Celtic fans when they lose big games - ranging from throwing and hitting referee Hugh Dallas with coins and rioting the day Rangers won the league at Celtic Park in 1999 to the carry on at the San Siro last week.
Before the recent league cup semi final, we had this sickening attack by a mob of Celtic supporting yobs on a young 10 year old Rangers fan.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-31091808[/QUOTE]
Hugh Dallas was an utter prick.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1101279, member: 377â]The 1999 reference is apt. To the best of my knowledge it was the last time that Celtic lost what was effectively a title deciding game at Celtic Park. Rangers comprehensive win that day saw them clinch the title. There were understandable policing and public safety concerns as to what could have happened on Sunday if Celtic lost to Aberdeen. Whatever about monopolies and lack of competition, maybe its just as well Celtic did win.
Those scenes from 1999 are just sickening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU0XRidWNU4
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While the now extinct Rangers won that game in 1999 to mathematically clinch the title at Celtic Park, the title also went down to the final match-day in 2003, 2005, 2009 and 2011 with Celtic coming out on the wrong side on each occasion. Of course, Sundayâs game against Aberdeen saw Celtic increase their lead to 6 points on the first weekend of March so it wasnât an actual title winning victory and therefore hardly comparable to 1999.
Again, youâre not being consistent in your points and repeatedly raising a game from 1999 isnât adding anything to your initial point about Aberdeenâs classier all-round behaviour. As Iâve shown with use of a range of factual examples, this doesnât stand up to scrutiny.
It might be advisable to bring more focus to your google searches to avoid making inaccurate statements about Aberdeen that you canât back up. As I said, whataboutery isnât adding much value to this. I could equally cite Celtic fan awards from UEFA etc but I canât be arsed.
To be honest I donât think this historical guru persona is working all that well for you and I preferred when you were very emotional about Mount Leinster Rangersâ recent success when using your @Wrigley Field log in.
A dirty orange bastard.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1101279, member: 377â]The 1999 reference is apt. To the best of my knowledge it was the last time that Celtic lost what was effectively a title deciding game at Celtic Park. Rangers comprehensive win that day saw them clinch the title. There were understandable policing and public safety concerns as to what could have happened on Sunday if Celtic lost to Aberdeen. Whatever about monopolies and lack of competition, maybe its just as well Celtic did win.
Those scenes from 1999 are just sickening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU0XRidWNU4
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I was at that game. In their wisdom, the sfa held the game in the evening on a bank holiday weekend. The atmosphere was poisonous, but stirred to a large extent by the bile spewing forth from the away support.
Hugh Dallas was generally loathed by Celtic fans as he seemed to often favour Rangers, and was a dreadful, though predictable, choice of referee. If the reverse had happened at ibrox in similar circumstance, there would have been a riot, and that element were not the ones who had been discriminated against for generations.
Thereâs been some awful orange bastards of refs in the last 10-15 years - Dallas, McCurry, Dougal and McDonald spring to mind.
Dougal was the worst for me.
[QUOTE=âflattythehurdler, post: 1101363, member: 1170â]I was at that game. In their wisdom, the sfa held the game in the evening on a bank holiday weekend. The atmosphere was poisonous, but stirred to a large extent by the bile spewing forth from the away support.
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Most football fans manage to desist from pelting coins at referees and repeated pitch incursions regardless of what time of the day, what day of the week a game is played on and the chanting of the opposition fans.
Celtic fans have repeatedly been involved in some of the most worst excesses of hooliganism in the British game over the years. The attack on the Rapid Vienna goalkeeper back in the mid 80âs, the rioting after the 1980 Scottish Cup Final and the Celtic yob who was making aeroplane gestures at Claudio Reyna a few days after 9/11 other particularly unsavoury episodes that would immediately spring to mind.
[QUOTE=âManuel Zelaya, post: 1101373, member: 377â]Most football fans manage to desist from pelting coins at referees and repeated pitch incursions regardless of what time of the day, what day of the week a game is played on and the chanting of the opposition fans.
Celtic fans have repeatedly been involved in some of the most worst excesses of hooliganism in the British game over the years. The attack on the Rapid Vienna goalkeeper back in the mid 80âs, the rioting after the 1980 Scottish Cup Final and the Celtic yob who was making aeroplane gestures at Claudio Reyna a few days after 9/11 other particularly unsavoury episodes that would immediately spring to mind.[/QUOTE]
Most football fans did desist from throwing coins that day, are you claiming the majority of 60 odd thousand fans there that day were throwing coins?
Aberdeen keep up their 100% winning start to the season with a win at Partick Thistle. Three Irish players in action again today for Aberdeen - Wilo Flood, Adam Rooney and Jonny Hayes.
Next league game is at home to Celtic at Pittodrie. A home win there would be a real statement of intent.
Aberdeen are trailing St Johnstone 5-1 at Pittodrie today. Hapless Ronny Deila and his stuttering Celtic side will have a chance to close the gap on the table topping Dons at Hamilton tomorrow.
When youâre operating in whatâs possibly the most uncompetitive domestic championship in the world, Celtic can still get away with stuttering and haplessness and win the league in a canter.
Aberdeen are two goals down in Dingwall tonight and will need to pull something out of the fire in the last 15 minutes.