Abortion Referendum Thread

Wow. That’s gotta be close to a prizewinning worst argument on either side.

But that’s the belief that is hopelessly wrong. I’m not denying the right to life of any potential human being. I support the right of a woman to make that choice. It’s remarkable people cannot see this distinction.

Agonizing over “unborn children” is a nonsensical position. One in three pregnancies end in natural abortion, that’s a lot more potential human lives gone than through abortion, probably 10X at least, if not 100X. Every egg a woman produces is a potential life, so every time a couple decide to use contraception and not get pregnant, there’s billions more potential lives gone. In terms of morality, there is zero difference between an embryo that is naturally aborted or one a woman decides to abort. Unless you want to start blaming God for all the natural abortions.

Argue against it then you fuckwit.

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I found out recently that the reason some people are born left handed is because every left handed person starts off as an identical twin in the womb. Every single set of identical twins has one right handed and one left handed sibling. The weaker twin usually either dies naturally or is eaten by the stronger twin. In the great majority of cases of identical twins one of the siblings will die before the mother gives birth. Sometimes the stronger twin that survives and eats the weaker twin is the left handed one so that’s why there’s left handed people.

These are the beautiful unborn babies we’re supposed to save - people who eat their siblings alive. Fucking animals.

No need. It’s so bad.

Good news for all the feminists on here
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Theon Grey joy be delighted

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Im not sure how you can equate a miscarriage to an abortion. One is a wilful act. The debate centres on whats a life i suppose. An egg prevented from fertilizing or a collection of cells as an embryo is not the same thing as a third trimester well developed, but as of yet unborn child. Should anyone have the right to end the latter on a whim is debatable at least.

Who is talking about third trimester? I dont think anyone on the forum has advocated that.

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But nobody is arguing for that and no civilized country allows it. Do you really think so little of women that you believe they would terminate a third semester pregnancy “on a whim”?? What an appalling attitude.

In the US, and I doubt it’s that different in Europe, over 90% of abortions occur in the first trimester and less than 1% in the third semester. In all states elective abortion is illegal in the third semester, so outside of doctors breaking the law ( and we know some do, just like backstreet abortion was common before 1973), these cases are medical emergencies.

Personally I think the 12 week limit is sensible and 24 weeks as in the UK is too far advanced.

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Repealthe8th is not about saving women’s lives. It’s dangerous to peddle that horrible horrible little lie.

We are voting for unconditional abortion. If you are in danger of dying then you can abort your baby.
If you wake up and decide you don’t fancy a baby for lifestyle reasons then you can also exterminate that baby.

Apart from the condition of being only allowed abort in the first trimester obviously…

nothing to do with ‘saving lives’, everyrhing to do with giving women ‘the choice’

What’s interesting is that Harris, the snowflakes, the leftists and all the other repeal crowd would have romped home had they not insisted on and railroaded ‘choice’. Instead focussed on ‘saving lives’. Big mistake.
It will be their downfall. There will be seriuos shrieking done.

Looking the part @anon61956325.

https://twitter.com/donnchadhol/status/988876922649268224?s=21

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But why do you think a 12 week limit… Why don’t you trust women after that time period? (this is the same accusation you’ve put to me)

Because I believe a developing fetus has some rights, rights that increase with the stage of pregnancy. Less than 12 weeks, I see little difference between a natural abortion and a chosen abortion, you are dealing with a potential life, and the rights of a woman to carry a pregnancy to term or abort trump the rights of the fetus. Again, >90% of all abortions take place during the first trimester.

I agree as time goes on it gets more tricky, especially with modern medicine where a fetus can now survive outside the womb at 22 weeks or so. Unless the mother’s life is in danger I see no justification for elective abortion once the fetus is viable, a position most of the civilized world agrees with.

In this day and age I think 12 weeks is sensible.

I agree. However theres nothing setting a 12 week limit in this proposed repeal.

Photoshop was put to the test for that picture.

You’re becoming incredibly:

I). Needy.
ii). Repetetive.
iii).Boring.

Solutions are:

I).Impregnate either Mrs.Sullivan or daughter.
ii). Lose the fucking dog.
iii).Forget about SF.
I know more about them than you’ll imagine.
iv). There’s life outside of TFK - no-one gives a fuck about you anyway.

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Ooooft.

He had it coming in fairness.