Abortion Referendum Thread

You’d need @KOS1987 here with figures but that only covers reported rapes so figure could be higher

Ye it’s all stats pulled out of people’s arses. Either way the yes campaign should have looked after the rape victims.
The incest victims. Those in poor health.
Its disgraceful how they have risked the lives of this minority group in persuit of ‘equality’ for all women. The equal right to exterminate a healthy baby. Its sick. And if they fail they will have to live with this.

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You are a painfully stupid cunt.

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it should be based on rapes reported to law enforcement, not qunagos

Standard response from you when bettered.

Why? The GardaĂ­ acknowledge that rape, sexual assault and domestic violence are massively underreported.

Wouldnt have a clue. But you should find the correct stat rather than doing a ‘David drumm’ on it. Just in the interest of a fair debate. I didnt let you hanging when you were pkeading for a few numbers earlier. You got this

Guesswork.

Yes. But what function does the RCC have in the criminal justice system. Essentially what the RCC has is totally unverified.

Wrong.

So you’d prefer to use figures that are acknowledged to be incorrect because the RCC doesn’t have a role in the criminal justice system (as if that means anything)? That is extremely fucking stupid.

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no, what youre suggesting is extremely fucking stupid. to rely on utterly verified figures, with no investigation at all.

if someone rings the RCC and says I was raped, that’s a rape. no investigation, no verification no nothing.

and its not as if its not in the RCC’s best interests to have high rape figures.

What data is there to suggest RCC figures are wrong?

Why would you rely on Garda figures the GardaĂ­ say are not representative? The GardaĂ­ acknowledge that reports to them are so wildly off that they made it an aim in their strategy statement to work to improve reporting.

And you want to use those Garda figures?

That is really fucking stupid.

what data is there to suggest that the the RCC figures are right? can they distinguish between sexual assault, S4 rape and normal rape? what verification systems do they have in place? what about male rape?

the RCC is totally unverified.

the only verified rape pregnancy stats are the underage pregnancies which was 69 in 2016.

What would somebody have to gain by going to the RCC with a bullshit claim.

This is in very bad taste

there’s a lot of lonely people and attention seekers out there. and then there’s the WUMs

So you’d prefer to use Gards figures that the Gardaí say are wildly wrong, rather than ones you contend haven’t been proved right?

That is extremely fucking stupid.

id actually rather use neither. but given I have to use one, id rather use the one with oversight which catches the chicanery

It doesn’t have oversight or catch chicanery and the Gardaí openly acknowledge this.

You’re being extremely stupid. So what’s your problem with the RCC?