Abortion Referendum Thread

How does a woman go about getting their husband /partner evicted in the Republic?
Up here ‘womans aid’ coach legal strategy and offer ‘off the shelf’ scenarios.
I’m not questioning the figures as I don’t know how they’re worked out, but scepticism is useful sometimes

what nonsense, you are actually a very very good example of a YES headbangar. stroppy, evasive, abusive, condescending, loud.

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You are a thick, ignorant gobshite. A poster boy for the No headbangers.

nobody else here is using the tone you seem intent on using, you are an abusive loudmouth

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It’s hard dealing with idiots as thick as you, I don’t encounter such oafs in my personal or professional life.

so because its is ‘nigh on impossible’ you say to legislate for what is required, then just roll out what is required by a small minority to all and sundry.

thats madness, it be fine if we were talking about ingrown toenails, but we are not.

go away, you are trolling

I think @TreatyStones called it as a situation using a sledgehammer to crack open some nuts. Which is probably apt enough.

At the same time, are the minority women collateral damage? The hundreds and thousands who suffer, during wanted pregnancies who do not want to abort, are they just forgotten about too?

And if the 8th remains, what will change? nothing. 4,000 Irish women will still go abroad to have an abortion, as is their constitutional right to do so under the 13th amendment which was voted in and enshrined in 1992. That I dont get. No, we dont agree to abortion, but here, we’ll vote on it and its ok to go over to England and do it there. Makes no sense to me.

And even on top of that, it is now a case of ordering the pills online. So those who cant afford to travel will be doing it unsupervised and not being medically checked. Surely it is better to educate and also to have safe procedures for the women who will do it one way or another.

He’s a twisted, evil, sinister little man.

Projecting again I see.

I didn’t say anything positive about you.

The dirty little secret the No side have is that they are delighted that Britain has offered access to abortion services for Irish women for decades.

That way they can continue to stick their fingers in their ears, whistle away to themselves and deny reality.

If such a safety valve did not exist, there would have been change long ago.

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There is no say over what Britain do. It’s horrific what they do to babies there, absolutely horrific.

Are you suggesting there right to travel should be restricted right now?

Do you think personal drug use, euthanasia and sex between a 50 year old man and a 14 year old girl should be legal? Answer all three separately

This is how Ireland treated actual babies.

Yet we’re supposed to accept that the new National Maternity Hospital should be run according to the ethos of nuns.

You couldn’t make it up.

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Are you putting the Daily Mail as a reputable source now?

Fascinating to see the rage being expressed in this thread

no problem bud. although you also threw in that strawman argument already.

no. I am asking why are we in such turmoil over the abortion issue, when people are seemingly happy that as long as it doesnt happen here, then it isnt an issue. People are morally against abortion, as is their right, but dont seem to mind that, as per our constitution, they can legally go abroad and do it.

It really has nothing to do with the debate. but some personal drugs yes, euthanasia is another moral dilemma and I can see its merits in some cases. But it would be awfully hard to govern. So I wouldnt be advocating it either.

In any case, none of the above are written into Irish law, or voted in by our democratic right that we can go abroad and do it.

No, I dont. Neither is it in our constitution that a man can go abroad and avail of other countries laws

I understand what you are trying to do here, saying that just because its law somewhere else is not a reason to make it law here.

However, none of your cases have had a specific referendum granting legal rights to do any of them, so they are inherently different. Ireland voted on allowing travel for abortion. And it is in the constitution. do you not see any irony in such a case?

Not irony, maybe some sense of compassion. What im trying to say here is that if the majority (certainly at that time) agreed they did not support abortion did not want it legalised in the country, what else were they supposed to do? You are obviously not suggesting they should have restricted the right to travel. I dont think this little bit of irony or in your mind hypocrisy means that people should be forced to accept unrestricted abortion

And you are kind of hiding behind that sop in the 1992 referndum. At least you can see the point that whats legal in country doesn’t mean it should be everywhere. Kind of explodes the, ‘well they can just travel to england, why not let them do it here’ reasoning

Their hard news reporting is pretty reputable, actually.

Here’s a report from the Irish Independent.