Abortion Referendum Thread

Holocaust denier alert

No one is forced to accept anything, abortion will not be compulsory. however women wanting that choice are forced to go abroad. It does not make sense, we are against abortion, but its ok to go elsewhere, so we’re only kind of against it.

your last point just edited in I dont think was made by anyone here? And its usually “sure they can just go abroad if they want an abortion”. I’m saying the reason it should be here is because women are doing it. And instead of them being left on their own and without future medical supervision, its not safe. It would be far safer for them to have any abortion procedures done here where they can be supported afterwards. Plus, as mentioned previously, pills are now available online to do this, so it is being done unsupervised and unchecked. That is not a good way to proceed.

the actual amendment being a pile of shite would be the the main reason it should be repealed.

If people in the No camp believe that a human being’s life begins at conception, doesn’t this mean that they should celebrate their conception day, instead of their birthday?

For example, my birthday is August 1st, but according to the No camp, my life would have actually begun nine months previously to this?

Did my life begin on November 1st or August 1st? Can the No supporters clarify, please?

The choice to kill a baby and face no repercussions.

The likes of yourself would just deny that rape ever happened. “What about innocent until proven guilty?” How long does it take to try a rape case?

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It’s basically the same as back in the day when the church/state used emigration to stop social change. The gays and single mothers just all fucked off to England like they didn’t exist, it was perfect for them.

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Don’t forget the non binaries

Replace JC with @Cicero_Dandi

Unlike you I don’t treat women like possessions. I just think humanity deserves more than terminating new lives.

You’d probably shit yourself if faced with a real woman, it’s an awful waste of time discussing it with you

Have you read the HSE report into the lady’s death? Doesn’t sound like it.

Not offering the full range of management options to the patient was one of the three causal factors found in her death. Page 72 “Different management options needed to be considered - including termination of the pregnancy - as removal of the source of infection reduces the risk of sepsis… etc”.

The couple asked for a termination and were denied it on the grounds it would be contrary to Irish law. This delay in removing the source of infection was clearly the greatest contribution to her death, monitoring the heartbeat of a fetus that was already miscarrying.

I think it’s obvious I have much more interaction with women than a lot of greenhorns on here.

You waste your time discussing anything as you’re a banal halfwit who has no meaningful insight into anything.

Was it or was it not a case of medical negligence that the lady was not diagnosed on time? The medical team did not deem her life in danger, as such they did not act. It was absolutely medical negligence which cost her life.

I’m not arguing it wasn’t medical negligence, I’m arguing her pregnancy should have been terminated as per the couples’ request. Her pregnancy wasn’t terminated due to concerns about Irish law, the fucking consultant told them this ffs. If the source of the infection had been removed, she most likely would have lived. The HSE agree, read the report.

So it was medical negligence that was the cause of her death, not the legislation.

The HSE are a mess, look at all the recent scandals. That’s not a reason for willy nilly abortions.

Dunno about that, I’m not a weird cunt with a 19th century view on life but that’s pretty normal,

You’re very, very weird.

:joy::rofl: priceless coming from you