Abortion Referendum Thread

As expected, you won’t answer the question as it causes cognitive dissonance. The primary medical negligence involved was not terminating the pregnancy quickly, as would be done in any other civilized country. The reason the pregnancy was not terminated quickly was because (although she was miscarrying) her life was not in imminent danger and there was a fetal heartbeat.

Your failure to apparently understand how this was primarily a result of the 8th amendment exposes you as either a serial liar or even dumber than you normally appear.

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If the medical team were not negligent, she would have survived. I’d say more focus should be put on fixing a decrepit health service than trying to legislate for killing babies.

The tinkers mightened be great for washing and educating their little childeren but they have great respect for babbies.

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Ireland is still a socially conservative country by and large. We have a much lower rate of divorce than the UK, I think it’s under half. There’s your abortion rate, which a complete red herring anyway.

The No campaign must be terribly fatalistic about how little grip religion and social conservatism has on this country nowadays if they think we’ll have the same abortion rate as the UK, yet conversely they claim the majority of the Irish people are against abortion. This is totally contradictory.

Another laughable line of argument from them is that they claim that the Irish health system “won’t be able to cope” with abortion. Yet it would be a far bigger strain on the health service were all the babies they claim will be aborted to be actually born.

The No campaign haven’t just lost the argument comprehensively during this campaign, they’ve been utterly routed, and every single one of them comes across as an utter headbanger. The total desperation in articles by No-supporting columnists in recent days has been a joy to behold. Eilis O’Hanlon’s piece in yesteday’s Sindo (I found it in a gutter) was the funniest of the lot, filled with red herrings, dishonesty, faux victim-playing and delusion. One of the worst articles in the history of Irish journalism and the rancid icing on a cake of sewage that has been the career of somebody who has been wrong about everything she has ever written about.

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You’re absolutely right Sidney, it’d be much cheaper just to abort… sound economic reasoning

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I think you’ll find it’s the No campaign who introduced economic “reasoning” mate, as befits a cynical sham of a campaign run by far right fundamentalists.

They’re probably worried about the cost of the treatment the state would have to provide for pregnant cancer patients - the No campaign’s view would be that it’s far more cost effective to stop them getting treatment and force them to go to England or die.

Ooooffftttt.

This will probably lead to another spate of No campaigners burning posters with Savita’s image on it.

Their real problem is the memory of her tragic death is burned into the public consciousness, and they can never erase it, no matter how many posters of her they burn.

Flight prices DUB LON this week suggest some return of voters for this referendum.

I wonder how all the gofundme pages are going now?

going well by these few other pages than the previous set mentioned

this is a good one actually, this is the “ablist apologist” one who Ryanair couldnt fly out as she hadnt booked a wheelchair accessible ticket. She also went after Cost Coffee recently too. Seems she has changed her no to yes vote anyway, probably helps getting her funding.

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I’m really sorry to be asking (I actually do feel horrible asking) but would anyone be able to help contribute to get me home from London? I feel like I have to chose between my moral duty as an Irish woman to help repeal the 8th and the opportunity to help becoming a journalist and raise awareness of issues that women with disabilities face.

Wtf

An upstanding citizen. A lion of a woman.

See how you’d get on if you spent one day as a chick in a wheelchair.

I sincerely doubt it you insensitive cunt

http://i1.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/article9856689.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/me-in-wc.jpg

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That’s wheely low.

Michael Martin was giving it loads about how Ireland wasn’t England culturally and you couldn’t compare numbers and possibilities.

Certainly interesting that we still have a low enough divorce rate compared to our peers but;

Ireland went from a State with no divorce to the OECD nation with the second highest claimants of lone parent allowance in the space of 13 years.

My guess is that abortion won’t do much to curb this as the economic incentives are still there with a complient media ready to print the sob stories.

The No campaign are flying a flag modelled on the Nazi flag. At a stand on O’Connell Street. Outside the GPO.

Another reason divorce isn’t high is because of the 4 year cooling period. I’d imagine if josepha madigans proposed amendment passes we’ll see a rise in the number. The other factor is judicial separation which should really be counted with the divorces under one heading of matrimonial breakdown.

Bloody hell. The No campaign is in league with the NRA.

Actually, this is completely as I had expected for months. There’s an incestuous relationship between all these horrible, scummy far right groups in numerous countries.

I’m sure you checked the app permissions for the repeal campaign and compared them with the permissions for the love both campaign one before posting that?

No, I think @Tank is an insensitive cunt for calling her upstanding when he knew she was wheelchair bound.