Abortion Referendum Thread

[artfoley]

@Gman

Does her husband own her image? Her father gave his blessing and it hadn’t been used much anyway I thought.

I do agree in general tho that her death is being overly used and at times cynically, but it’s not no worse than burning her image on a poster. That’s utter scumbag behaviour.

Her death is very much part of the 8th discussion tho, whether people want to accept that or not

AFAIK there’s no image rights upon death. But even so, common courtesy would say reach out to the husband.

Yes I agree that her case, among many, needs discussing but there’s other s such as the woman who bled out in the taxi in the UK and the current holles St judicial review of the investigation into their handling of a death

As for the burning of the poster, all we have is a burnt poster with no idea of who did it.

[Gman]

Who knows if they reached out or not? He has been particularly quiet for a long time, unlike her parents who have strongly advocated a yes vote and kept her in the spotlight.

In my opinion tho, the woman bleeding out in a Taxi in the UK is another reason for having the procedure here, so the proper care is provided to women who go thru the procedure. Of course the argument that if she didn’t do it she wouldn’t have died, but she did, but had to do it out of the country and getting less medical supervision as a result.

[artfoley]

@Gman

In my opinion tho, the woman bleeding out in a Taxi in the UK is another reason for having the procedure here, so the proper care is provided to women who go thru the procedure. Of course the argument that if she didn’t do it she wouldn’t have died, but she did, but had to do it out of the country and getting less medical supervision as a result

Of course the easy counter to that is that the healthcare you speak of is provided by the HSE…

[glasagusban]

Exactly, and obviously.

[Cicero_Dandi]

She died from medical negligence.

[anon7035031]

Brought about by the 8th amendment which ties the hands of medical staff unless the life of the woman was in imminent danger. Read the case posted by @Tank above, it’s literally identical to the Savita case.

Should the medical staff in Galway have granted the couple’s wish when they asked for a termination the day she was admitted? Even though she wasn’t in imminent danger and the fetus still had a heartbeat?

[gilgamboa]

@artfoley

but why is the focus on abortion, why isnt it on the prevention of crisis pregnancies?

Of course that should be a factor. Its just not the issue at hand

[gilgamboa]

@anon26343222

Am I supposed to feel some sort of connection with this lady?? I don’t know her or anything about her life.

If you dont you probably shouldnt bother voting

[gilgamboa]

Oooooft

[gilgamboa]

@artfoley

But even so, common courtesy would say reach out to the husband.

Do you know they havent? It sounds like you do

[artfoley]

@gilgamboa

Do you know they havent? It sounds like you do

I know by them.

[gilgamboa]

@artfoley

I know by them.

With all due respects. Thats a pile of bollocks of an answer

[artfoley]

@gilgamboa

With all due respects. Thats a pile of bollocks of an answer

Because if they had it they would’ve tweeted as much. They haven’t, ergo they didn’t ask or get it.

[gilgamboa]

Conflation

[Gman]

And so is her pregnancy treatment if brought to term. So, we don’t trust the HSE to carry out abortions but we have to trust them to ensure pregnancies are OK? Works both ways too.

[tallback]

It’s curious to see as we get closer to voting day and with the indications being that repeal will carry the day, campaigners for No are making arguments that we should legislate for hard cases, improve sexual education, increase contraception availability etc. The exact same suspects have campaigned hard against any suggestions of these for the best part of 20 years. It just shows the desperation and cynical dishonesty of these chancers that they’re making out now that they’d support such measures and almost querying why successive governments haven’t gotten around to implementing them.

[backinatracksuit]

Perhaps @Cicero_Dandi will soften his view that rape victims should be subjected to internal examinations and then arrested for attempting to board an airplane
But I doubt it

[Cicero_Dandi]

Brought about by an inadequate health service where doctors are not accountable for their negligence.

[anon7035031]

Answer the question you coward. Should the medical staff have carried out the couple’s request to terminate the day she was admitted?

[Cicero_Dandi]

You’re barking up the wrong tree. It’s a clear case of medical negligence from a basket case of a health service where its one scandal after the next.