Thatâs sort of the point. It would have made all the difference.
Thanks for the replies lads. âSerious harmâ as its worded in the proposed legislation is fairly subjective I wouldâve thought
No. It was simply not allowed until there was a risk to her life.
People are quick to use England as their reference point. So in a country where it is freely available up to 24 weeks, the vast majority, more than 90% do it before 12 weeks. Most who go past 12 weeks want a baby and unfortunately most of those abortions are due to complications. 12 weeks is a fair mark to set before viability and gives women time to make their mind up.
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Then it was medical negligence as to apprehending that threat?
Itâs a long way from threat to life.
A dramatic late intervention. This could certainly tip the balance in favour of a No vote. 
Have you not even read whatâs being proposed?
The Orange Order and IONA institute (far right Catholic groups) all on the same side ⌠The mind boggles.
Not the draft bill just the bullet points of it
There was a threat to her health. They could do nothing. They sat and waited until it was a threat to her life because thatâs what the law requires. By then it was too late.
You seem to have engaged with the debate so you should have a handle on this stuff already.
Another issue with the current situation is that the right to life of the unborn in the constitution is equal to that of the mother. I accept your view that the unborn should have a right to life, but is itâs right to life equal to that of the mother? A 12 week old foetus is equal to the life of a woman? Canât accept that.
I think since the start of this campaign they prefer to be called the âI Own Herâ Institute.
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Pretty good!
But it should have been more accurately seen to be a threat to her life? They only sat and waited due to human error?
Its a balancing of rights, as i have said, if a mothers life is at risk then they should of course take precedence. But im not sure how any right for the unborn holds any weight at all if it is considered otherwise
I generally make up all my own quick witted quips and top class humour, but sadly I stole that one.
It will take very serious grounds once the 12 week Mark has passed⌠I think itâs fair to assume that most women that get to 5 or 6 months want the pregnancy and it would take something drastic to abort at that stage.
No lad. It was a threat to her health only at the beginning. Because it could not be treated (meaning abortion unfortunately) it worsened and became a threat to life, but by that time it was too late to save her.
It wasnât the doctors error, the law did not leave any space for them to act. Thereâs no doubt on this one that sheâd be alive under the proposed regime.
If you say that a motherâs life take precedence then then the rights of the unborn are not equal. The 8th amendment specifically says âequalâ. So if you follow your line of reasoning there, the 8th amendment has the balance wrong.
Thanks you for your thoughts maroon, the purpose of TFK as I see it is to a) talk about the gah in an environment loaded with indigenous Celtic wit and free from any Anglo-Saxon pretentiousness, and b) deliver vicious and cruel put downs, as personal as possible that will shatter the targets flimsy mental health and to deliver those put downs to any cunt that deserves it, which is everyone on here. I think everything I say to the Tyrone man is within that spirit.
If you think about it back in the day 25,000+ Irish kids were raped by the Church/State because hundreds of people (priests) refused to face up to their homosexuality and channeled it into bitterness, cruelty and bullshit instead. Itâs important that those types of cunts get chopped down whenever they appear.
Iâm also being 100% serious when I say that the cunt thinks that thousands of innocent children will be murdered per year and he wonât even cast a vote to help them and heâs the most evil man in Irish history.
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They waited five days when normal practice in a civilized country is to terminate once a miscarriage has started. The reason to do that is the danger of sepsis which is what killed the poor woman.
I think her point was it wouldnât be an immediate risk that she could get a termination for as things currently stand. Sheâd have to wait for the threat to her life to gradually grow until it became immediate.
Iâve only met her a few times ever, her post popped up on our mutual friendâs Facebook page.