Itâs a difference between in utero and ex utero
What is the evidence for this? Abortion is freely available in the US and has been dropping steadily for the past 40 years, and is now below the level when abortion was decriminalized.
The number of women travelling from Ireland to the UK for abortions has been dropping for the past 2 decades, itâs now 50% of what it was in 2001. Over a time period where plane travel now costs no more than a train within Ireland.
What is going to drive this dramatic surge in demand for abortions? Are more people going to start having unprotected sex because abortion is locally available?
Did abortion dramatically increase in the immediate years following Roe Wade?
Easier access, less stigmatisation and general societal acceptance of this solution to unwanted pregnancies, in my opinion, will inevitably lead to a dramatic increase. There is no way to know until a couple of years time when the data is available.
I donât like bringing the Iceland down syndrome stats into it but that is a good indication of the destination.
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look at the lovely people in this article, thats who these repeal bastards want to murder
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rape, as despicable as it is, seems to be a big reason for the pro abortion cause. However it does not Imo give someone the right to (literally) destroy an innocent life. A view Iâve always held Ăłn this and I wonât be turning. It will still be done anyway but I canât agree with it. TĂĄ no nĂl the decision to and access to abort will be made anyway.
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Yes, but⌠Abortion was illegal in the US prior to Roe v Wade, so who knows what the numbers were prior to 1973, the illegal abortion providers were hardly providing statistics.
The factors you mentioned have been in place in Ireland since the church lost its grip on the population in the mid to late 1990s. Why has the rate of abortion dropped by 50% since then?
You think rape victims should be forced to go full term?
I think nĂł person has the right to take another innocent life, I thought I made that clear.
Itâs dropped 1/3 since the 90s but the stats are unreliable as some states donât provide figures.
The big figure is approx 60m terminations since roe vs Wade.
Independent life , yes⌠A fetus under 21 weeks can not live independently of a host.
But aside from thatâŚYou have to love men coming in telling a woman who was raped what she should and shouldnât do with her body.
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Itâs crazy, you have some proper lunatics posting in here.
21 weeks is still a new and innocent life though and will develop to an independent one. These are the more extreme cases but the key thing for me is innocent and did nout wrong, as hard as it could be for the victimâŚ
Go way to fuckâŚ
Thankfully most people donât hold such barbaric views
@No voters - why canât you just be honest and say you want women who have abortions to be charged with premeditated murder?
Where will you find the extra 170,000 prison places?
I was talking about Ireland, from 2001 to 2016 the numbers travelling to the UK for abortions dropped from 6,673 to 3,265. That pretty much defeats the argument that there will be an avalanche of abortions if the 8th is repealed.
There are of course many other factors involved, primarily sex education and the availability of contraception, which of course the church is opposed to as well.
Look, it directly correlates to centuries of indoctrination by the church, and an insular culture that was resistant to different views. At least the overtly religious are consistent in their beliefs, itâs the pretend Catholics that are a farce.
You have to remember this is a culture (that still exists, especially in NI, among both segments) that believes women are evil, sex other than for procreation is evil, contraception is evil, divorce is evil, and you should trust your kids with the local deviant priest.
You couldnât make it up.
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This is not about underage rape victims, how many are you even talking about who wanted to abort a baby but couldnt? Do you know?
Its about the right of every woman to abort their baby for any or no reason.
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Hard to believe that our ancestors were actually light years ahead of us with their laws and views on how society should work for the benefit of society as a whole.
The Brehon laws catered for divorce, abortion, homosexuality, rape, mental health ⌠Even womenâs sexual gratification
The introduction of Christianity literally held us back 1000 years⌠Weâve taken that long to get back to where our pre Christian and early medieval ancestors were⌠Thatâs beyond fucked up when you actually think about it.
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21 weeks not an innocent life, 22 yes. Go way outa that robbie
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It is.