Abortion Referendum Thread

[Matty_Hislop]

100% agree, disgusting that Murphy was released without showing any remorse, you should not be released from jail without being rehabilitated. We should have actually just hanged the fucker.

[Matty_Hislop]

Are you talking to yourself?

[anon26343222]

Murder is worse obviously, and we are a laughing stock, most of Europe are way behind punishing these cunts. Fucking 20years for the nut who slaughtered the kids in Norway andres bravrik or something, look i know he’ll never get out, but christ give him a life sentence change the laws that brought a country to its knees. Hang him.

[glasagusban]

He’s not an asexual he’s a gay.

[Cicero_Dandi]

I’m asexual, I have received lots of abuse for being asexual on here but it doesn’t bother me, I am comfortable with who I am. You on the other hand are gay as a rainbow but you have troubles coming out.

[Matty_Hislop]

Exactly. He lives a Dennis Nilsen type existence.

[glasagusban]

It’s very sad.

[gaillimhmick]

@Ambrose_McNulty

Just for the record, The former poster @Nembo_Kid closed his account in accordance with the consequences of a bet he made and lost, two or three years previously. He was an Admired poster and folllowed through on his promise.

How do you close your account?

[glasagusban]

I wish he knew.

[Ambrose_McNulty]

Why would I want to close my account, you useless no mark cunt?

[Ambrose_McNulty]

This is a truly horrendous situation for all sides. Personally, I believe in the right to life, but in situations of fatal foetal abnormality, direct impact on the life of a mother or rape I believe it should be allowed. In no way do I think abortion should be a method of birth control.

[Matty_Hislop]

Glad to hear you’ll be voting yes mate.

[Ambrose_McNulty]

There’s a good chance I will, but what the fuck will eventually end up in legislation is the problem.

[Matty_Hislop]

The intransigence of the no side had lead us to this position. It’s simply absurd to force women who were raped or have fatal foetal abnormalities to give birth. It’s barbaric and voting yes will put an end to this shame.

[Ambrose_McNulty]

I would suggest the rampant arrogance of the yes campaign with slogans around ‘men policing women’s bodies’ are far more disingenuous. The cart before the horse senario with removing the constitutional amendment before the details of legislation might swing this for the no.

[anon61956325]

That’s exactly the type of unimaginative and unoriginal response that I was expecting and the reason most people hate you and want you to die. The fact that you had to log back in and reply to yourself with your other alias sums how sad you and your life is… Just Look at the scumbags who even liked your post, including your other alias …

Seriously, go tie a noose and put a bag over your head and end it all mate…you should give us all a good chuckle and stream it live.

[anon61956325]

I’m not here to hold your hand.

[Cicero_Dandi]

Stage 10 rattled.

[Enrique]

Classic stuff. Go die etc etc. Not that it matters really but I’m not an alias of one of your internet arch enemies. Just calling you out on your shite incessant posting and having a chuckle at how much you must hate your life.

[Sidney]

https://aidancomerford.net/2018/04/27/the-rule/

There is a woman who is too sick to leave her bed, and there is a fire. She is worried, but the fire is in the house at other end of the terrace, and the firefighters are here.

She asks to be evacuated, but the firefighters remind her that she lives in Ireland, where a woman cannot have an evacuation unless there is a big risk to her life.

That’s The Rule.

The firefighters want to help, but they say it’s hard to know what “big” means. Would a lit match be a big risk? After all, a match can light a candle or start a forest fire. And if anyone breaks The Rule, they can spend 14 years in prison, which is…big!

So they wait, just to be sure. They check in on her from time to time, but mostly she is alone and scared, as the fire moves from house to house, until, finally, it is downstairs. Then, the firefighters try to save her, but they have waited too long, and she dies.

A lot of people are very angry and they want to get rid of The Rule. But some people want to keep it. The Keepers say that it wasn’t The Rule that killed her, it was the fire.

A firefighting expert says that if she had been evacuated when she asked she would have survived. Another firefighting expert says that women are so scared The Rule that they are fighting fires on their own, and it won’t be long until one of those women dies too.

The Keepers say that we have one of the best firefighting services in the world, but the experts who run that service say they also want to get rid of The Rule, so they can be free to decide how best to do their jobs – which everyone agrees they are usually very good at.

One firefighting expert – I will call her Louise – says that other women have died because of The Rule, and that it is a lie to say otherwise.

However, Eamonn, a retired firefighting expert, says that no woman has ever been harmed by The Rule, but when he is asked about two women, he says he can’t remember one, and that he doesn’t know much about the other.

A man called John, who is not an expert in anything, says that these complicated firefighting situations are a tiny percentage. He is hoping that by taking a small number out of his bum and showing it to people, that it will make them forget about the real people behind that number, which is a trick that sometimes works.

Because of The Rule, Irish women often have to call on English firefighters to help, which is very expensive, and the English firefighters say that there may come a day when they don’t have enough firefighters to keep helping Irish women, so they think we should get rid of The Rule too…

…but all of this is nonsense. Of course it is. We would never dream of coming up with a rule that ties firefighters’ hands like that, and yet, that is what the 8th amendment, and the legislation that flows from it, does to our obstetricians.

We should never have a rule that forces any Irish emergency service to play chicken with a woman’s life. And I understand that some people think The Rule we have actually saves lives. It doesn’t, and we might disagree about that, but that should not be a constitutional argument.

You might not want abortion on demand, but you might still think that in cases of fatal fetal diagnosis, or rape, or cancer that we should legislate to help those women, because, like most people, you have compassion. But legislators and doctors cannot do much to help, because the 8th is too blunt an instrument with which to make such sharp distinctions.

By voting no, you will not stop abortion on demand in this country: it will carry on, as it does, off our soil, or by women taking pills they bought online, alone and scared. And we will continue to turn our backs on Irish women, in the worst moments of their lives. At least the country next door has the good grace to treat those women with the dignity they deserve, and not as mere vessels. When it comes to caring properly for these women, we are an outlier among civilised countries. It is no wonder that the UN calls us cruel and inhumane. It is with good reason.

And, have you considered this: what if Savita, or a woman in a similar situation, had a termination when she first asked, and a pro-life nurse reported the doctor to the Gardaí? There would surely be people who work for the No campaign today who would say that the doctor should be imprisoned. In Facebook comments, people would write anecdotes about friends in similar situations who survived and went on to have healthy babies. There would even be a few obstetricians who would say that, in their professional judgment, they didn’t think there was a substantial enough risk to the woman’s life to terminate. Because – let’s be honest about this – it is not about best medical practice for some people. It is about ideology.

I think – I hope – that for most people, their ideology would not survive the fire. You might consider yourself ideologically pro-life, but if someone you loved were even in a little bit of danger or distress, you would want them to be helped. You certainly wouldn’t want anyone to wait until the danger was “big” enough, would you? Imagine your daughter died because a “pro-life” doctor had set a very high bar for what they considered to be a substantial risk? Imagine your daughter was crying for help, only to be told, “I’m sorry, this is a Catholic country.” You would roar from the rooftops, because you would understand all too well that one woman’s death is one too many.

We must vote to repeal.

Knowing what we know, we cannot in good conscience keep The Rule.