Itâs pretty much the same as it was before.
[SIZE=6][FONT=georgia][SIZE=36px][SIZE=3]Youth defense website hacked and replaced with the following[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=6][FONT=georgia][SIZE=36px][SIZE=3]http://www.youthdefence.ie/index.html[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=6][FONT=georgia][SIZE=36px]This is not the hate-filled truth-distorting website youâre looking for.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Note: We the Irish do not appreciate US organisations pouring money into shady groups here to try change our rules and society for their own gains. Youth Defence has been the seed of more hatred here that any group in a long time. It has to stop.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Youth Defence is not what you think it is. Youth Defence is an extremist group who actively hide their links to shady right-wing connections and where their funding comes from. Letâs blow the lid.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Neo-Nazi Links[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Original leaders include Fr. Maurice Colgan (more on him below) & Justin Barret, a man with known links to neo-Nazi movements (speaking at NDP events in Germany) and who has campaigned in the past against divorce, contraception & gay rights. In his book he has even described immigration as âgenocidalâ. He has also spoken at multiple Forza Nuova (Italian far-right group) rallies in the past. Recently, it was shown that current leaders have been known to associate themselves with the likes of, Michael Quinn, a prominent member of the Irish far-right group, the Irish National Brotherhood (INB) who happens to be a proud fan of the Greek far-right political party the Golden Dawn and who constantly tweets about his hatred for ânegrosâ. Quinn would like us to believe that when the IMF assisted Ireland during the bailout one of the terms they demanded was that Ireland needed to install abortion on demand. It has been revealed that Quinn is a close friend of a certain Fr. Maurice Colgan. Colgan, as you may know since you are visiting this cesspit of a website is a founding member of Youth Defence. Certainly, Fr. Colganâs Neo-Nazi sympathies cannot be denied, he even once lived with a certain Anthony Barnes (lead singer of the whiney, untalented Dublin Neo-Nazi band, Celtic Dawn). What would the church say of this relationship? A man, cohabiting with another man and their shared affinity with the far-right.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Let us not forget too, that both he and Barret were arrested after violence broke out and member of An Garda Siochana were assaulted when the Youth Defence thought it would be a nice idea to protest outside the rooms of terminally ill patients at Adelaide Hospital in 1999.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Charity Status?[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Youth Defence are classified as a charity, in Irish law a charity must disclose donations over âŹ100 and are not allowed to accept donations over âŹ2500. They have yet to allow the Public Office Commission to see where they are getting their money from. Given the scope of their advertising campaign it can only be assumed that they are receiving funds from an individual or a group who they donât want the public to know about. But what we do know is that they are certainly funded from outside of Ireland by right-wing neo-conservative Americans (more below). Indeed, if you were screwed up enough to donate to Youth Defence you would have noticed that on their donation form the currency was American dollars. It has only recently been changed to the currency of Ireland, the Euro. This website isnât even hosted in Ireland. Itâs on a North American server.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Inflated Numbers[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]It has recently been shown too that the vast majority of Youth Defenceâs Twitter followers are not Irish. 59% of followers are from the USA and Canada. Only 14% are from Ireland. Itâs also been shown that their Facebook page (around 72,000 Likes), 38,000 are from the USA, while only 9,000 are from the island of Ireland.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Office Association & Hiding the Books[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Youth Defence claim to be based at Life House, Number 60a, Capel Street, Dublin. The small office is shared among quite a few anti-choice organisations. They include: Coir, the Life Institute, the Mother & Child Campaign, Pro-Life Alliance, prolifeinfo.ie, Truth TV, and of course Youth Defence. Thatâs quite a few different organisations running from one small office. Youâve got to wonder whether funds are transferred between them legally. Probably not, what a silly question. Irish authorities have never been allowed to get their hands on their accounting books. Why, you ask. Well, these crafty so-and-soâs continue to evade the authorities. An Irish registered charity must document all donations above a certain amount. However, Youth Defence and their cohorts, while itâs plain to see are lobbying entities (funded by charity), refute this and claim they are âeducation spreadingâ entities. Letâs take a look at who are really funding Youth Defence and their sister organisations:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Where the Funding Comes From[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Are they funded by Irish anti-choice campaigners?[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]To a small extent, but the vast amount of money comes from America. Sure, if youâve ever even attended one of their organised events youâll have noticed that a huge proportion of the people attending are not only not Irish, they arenât even European. Itâs well known that North American fundamental Christians are flown in to boost their numbers.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Why does the funding come from America?[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Well, thatâs easy to answer, if these 3 American men below can secure Ireland as remaining without abortion then they can use our country as a beacon for their anti-choice campaigns in America. They can show that Ireland remains strongly Catholic, and the last great bastion of Christian faith in Europe, fighting the so-called âgood fightâ.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]They have zero problem with Irish women leaving Ireland for Britain to have abortions. Zero. They just want Ireland to remain âabortion freeâ so they can claim a moral victory in Western Europe and try to push for a similar occurrence in America.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]These men, play on the emotions of Irish-Americans and sure, donât we all know that the plastic paddy diaspora know whatâs best for us. Those who actually live thousands of kilometres away from the coal-face. Those who chose to leave Ireland, letâs remind ourselves that while we all have, and know plenty of families that have been decimated by immigration, it was always a choice. Not since the days of Cromwell have people been forced to leave Ireland. Now, thankfully, those that look back at the auld sod and see us as still being the backwater we were when they left are taking it upon themselves to try and dictate things from afar. Sure, itâs for our own good, they quite clearly have our best interests at heart. Weâre too close to the action, sure how could we know whatâs best? We only effing live here![/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Letâs take a gander at these specimens of men.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]Joe Scheidler (Founder of the Pro-Life Action League)[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Known as the man who âdefined pro-life direct actionâ. He once penned a book entitled âClosed - 99 Ways to Stop Abortionâ. Where chapters include titles such as: Sidewalk Counselling, Adopt an Abortionist, Strategies for Closing Abortion Mills, and Getting Pro-Life Information into High Schools. The last one particularly applies to Ireland, havenât you heard recently about some Irish schools where the sex education book being used encourages abstinence and discourages all types of contraception? Well, thatâs thanks to one of the above âeducation spreadingâ organisations.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Scheidlerâs link with Ireland is quite dubious, he simply sees Ireland as somewhere that the battle against abortion can actually be won and wants to use the âsuccessâ of Youth Defence & the Life Institute here as a springboard for his campaigns in the good old U.S. of A. This is a man who once described the protection of abortion clinic workers as nothing more than âan event the media are focusing on the take attention away from Obamaâs failed domestic financial policiesâ.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]He once tracked down an 11 year old pregnant girl, (heâd seen a report about her on TV, and then hired a private investigator) to her house where he confronted the girlâs mother (screaming from a neighbouring balcony and armed with a loudspeaker) to try and convince them to not go through with an abortion.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Oh, and how do we know heâs one of the ones behind the funding of the Irish operations? Well, thatâs easy, he admitted it in an interview with the Sunday Business Post not so long ago. He believes that those who carry out abortion procedures and the women who have the procedure done should face the death penalty. He also believes that America is involved in a civil war against pro-choice activists. He has described Don Benny Anderson, responsible for the kidnapping of abortion clinic worker Dr Hector Zevallos and his wife, and Peter Burkin, who carried out firebombing attacks on two abortion clinics, as âsound as a dollarâ.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Heâs clearly loopy, yet heâs somehow allowed to run fundraising campaigns in the States to fund the likes of Youth Defence here.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]Scott Schittl[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Schittl is American and moved to Ireland around 1998 and studied in Trinity College. On obtaining Irish citizenship in 2005, he bailed out and returned to the States where he is now president of Life House. Where have we seen that name before? Oh yeah, on Capel Street in Dublin. Life House are an â⌠American, tax-exempt organisation⌠[whose] purpose is to help make sure Ireland remains pro-life and abortion-free, and make it easier for Americans to support Irelandâs pro-life success storyâ. How nice of them to send some money our way, you gotta love those plastic paddies, they always know whatâs best for us, stuck here in our rain-soaked homeland.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]Michael Sullivan[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Finally! One with an Irish surname at least, but fear not, heâs not actually Irish either, he just lived here for 10 years. Sullivan is a founding member of the Divine Mercy Project. Heâs also a founding member of a group called Go First Ministries, âa Catholic outreach to persons who experience same sex attractionâ in other words, where Catholic teens are sent by their conservative, homophobic parents to try to pray their homosexuality out of themselves.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Sullivan also campaigns for funds to be sent to Ireland, so as to keep Ireland abortion free and because he believes âthat Ireland is a key to the re-evangelisation of the worldâ.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]The Ancient Order of Hibernians[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]The single greatest organisation of plastic paddies the world has ever seen. Ultra Catholic and ultra conservative. They still believe that Kathleen Ni Houlihan is alive and well and that the menfolk of Ireland still walk our rain-sodden streets with flat caps and shillelaghs and wood pipes and the womenfolk wear shawls and dance barefoot at crossroads. The above three prey on the rose-tinted, distant memories of the members of the Ancient Order of Hibernians (cool name and all that it is) and receive vast amounts of dollars to spend on anti-choice campaigns held in the homeland of their distant, distant ancestors, yâknow, the ones who left Ireland, by choice, a long, long time ago.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]They also believe that EU law, (the one that says Ireland needs to clarify its stance on abortion) âemanates from Britainâ.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Scare Tactics, Illegal Advertising & Propaganda[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Youth Defence have been constantly smearing the country with their billboards, posters and leaflets, all of which are misleading, most of which are outright lies. They contain the following filth:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[LIST]
[]Images of aborted foetuses (although some are photos of healthy C-section babies, but letâs not let facts get in the way of their lies) and other death porn
[]Unsavoury captions
[]Flyers detailing that babies have been born so their organs could be harvested
[]Robocalls, people have been pestered with hateful messages by an autodialler
[]Eddie Shaw, headmaster of Harold School in Dublin put leaflets in childrenâs school bags
[/LIST]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]They do this for one reason, to scare rational minded people into doing what the Youth Defence want them to. Even the way they talk is geared that way:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Youth Defenceâs propaganda-like guide entitled âWhen They Say⌠You Sayâ includes:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[LIST]
[]Donât say DOCTOR, PHYSICIAN â say ABORTIONIST
[]Donât say PRO-CHOICE â say PRO-ABORTION
[]Donât say ANTI-ABORTION â say PRO-LIFE
[]Donât say FOETUS â say UNBORN CHILD, PREâBORN CHILD, BABY
[/LIST]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Here is some of the lies currently being told over and over:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[LIST]
[]Savita Praveen Halappanavar. Youth Defence still believe that her death was ânot caused by Irelandâs ban on abortionâ
[]The harvesting of baby organs. They actually tell people that abortion happens in some cases to provide the father with organs from the baby!
[]Lying about Fine Gaelâs pre-election promise. The promise was to talk about the issue, not to keep the same law
[]Smearing human faeces on their own building (claiming it wasnât them)
[]Bragging that the Irish Times âreportedâ that there were 10,000 people at an organized Youth Defence event. What the Irish Times actually said was this:
[*]Organisers âYouth Defence, the Life Institute, and Family and Life â estimated that more than 10,000 people attended the vigil. GardaĂ would not confirm a figure when contacted. So, in fact, they boasted about their estimation. Good job, lads.
[/LIST]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Violence[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Letâs have a look at some violent incidents their ânon-violentâ protests have been involved in:[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]1992[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]In 1992 on Thomas Street, Dublin, Youth Defence attacked and assaulted pro-choice campaigners, causing many injuries.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]1994[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]6th July 1994, Youth Defence attacked a group of Pro-Choice protesters in Buswells Hotel, opposite DĂĄil Eireann. Youth Defence members came into the hotel and threw missiles at both the protesters and ordinary customers. The GardaĂ arrived and put both groups out into the street, where scuffles continued for some time. The GardaĂ intercepted a Youth Defence van containing a gang of men armed with hurleys and other weapons.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]1995[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]In 1995, a number of Youth Defence members were arrested after their picket became violent outside the office of Co. Wexford T.D., Brendan Howlin, Irish Minister of Health at the time.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]1998[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]1998, 12 Youth Defence members occupied the Marie Stopes Reproductive Choices clinic on Blessington Street. An elderly staff member was physically assaulted.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][FONT=georgia][SIZE=22px]1999[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]In 1999, members of staff of the Irish Family Planning Association were assaulted. The associationâs clinic on Cathal Brugha Street was occupied by hundreds of Youth Defence supporters, and the IFPAâs director, Tony OâBrien, was continually harassed. Among the group were 40 Americans, led by Fr. Pat Mahoney of the Washington DC group âChristian Defense Coalitionâ.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Following the occupation, Youth Defence continued to picket the IFPA clinic and also plastered the city with âanonymousâ posters claiming that Tony OâBrien, director of the IFPA, âExports Irish Babies for Slaughterâ. The poster included a picture of Tony OâBrien.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]In 1999, the Adelaide Hospital incident spoken about above, where Youth Defence members decided to protest outside the rooms of terminally ill patients.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=georgia]Also in 1999, The Ulster Pregnancy Advisory Service in Belfast announced that it was closing down as a result of the intimidation and pickets placed on its members by the âPrecious Lifeâ group. An arson attack and burglary incident had also taken placed at the UPAA office. Precious Life, based in Ballymena, is the Northern branch of Youth Defence.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Questions we want you to think about[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[LIST]
[]Do these people have your interests at heart?
[]If what theyâre trying to achieve is truly right then why do they need to lie so much?
[]Why do they think that they are exempt from Irish law?
[]Why do they continue to not allow Irish authorities to look at how they receive their funding?
[/LIST]
[SIZE=5][FONT=georgia][SIZE=28px]Read more[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]
[LIST]
[]Complete list of Youth Defence newsletter subscribers part 1
[]Complete list of Youth Defence newsletter subscribers part 2
[]Youth Defence on Wikipedia
[]Justin Barrett on Wikipedia
[]River of Bile on Steroids
[]My challenge to Youth Defence about fundraiser Joseph Scheidler disrupting abortion clinics
[]School chair resigns in anti-abortion row
[]YOUTH DEFENCE FLOUTS DCC RULES
[]Youth Defence articles on Broadsheet
[]The Problem with Youth Defence
[]Youth Defence unrepentant as eight convicted
[]Opposite The Dublin Rape Crisis Centre
[]Clashes with Youth Defence 1992 â 1995
[]Why American Pro-Life Dollars Are Pouring Into Ireland
[]Youth Defence billboard posters not covered by advertising standards
[]Youth Defence in U-turn over rape claims backlash
[/LIST]
Smashing stuff.
A work colleague of mine in the 90âs was in Youth Defence. He was a complete tool, who constantly turned the most innocuous conversation around to a diatribe about commies (who he thought were destroying Ireland), abortion, homosexuals and his particular favourite and specialty skill set - victims of abuse by the Catholic Clergy (âIts all liesâ). He was outside the GPO one time promoting his filthy newsletter and called out to me. It was extremely embarrassing to be associated with such a horrible, little obnoxious cunt.
Apologies for ignoring you that day Tassotti.
abortions today
post birth abortions tomorrow
dont give an inch
Would Lucinda Creighton ever stop looking for attention and fuck off.
How has she voted in the past if its only now she must vote with her conscience clear?
Agree. Attention seeking arsehole. Guarantee sheâll fall in line for a finish too. And whatâs her major problem with abortion for suicidal women, doesnât believe in it apparently, has she never heard of the X case?
I visited the dail tonight and was in the gallery for the 10pm vote and then the bar for a few hours. Watching the debate now on tv and having seen the few protestors outside as we left leinster house suggests that we are in the last stage of turning over the country on social issues.
Btw - dail bar is a great social house, you could meet anyone there
Just strolled past. Still a vocal crowd of protesters present.
[quote=âciarancareyshurlingarmy, post: 800011, member: 464â]I visited the dail tonight and was in the gallery for the 10pm vote and then the bar for a few hours. Watching the debate now on tv and having seen the few protestors outside as we left leinster house suggests that we are in the last stage of turning over the country on social issues.
Btw - dail bar is a great social house, you could meet anyone there[/quote]
I thought you had to be like a TD or something to get in there? Is it open to everyone CCHA, or just Limerick people given the week thats in it?
Difficult decision ahead of Labour TD Michael McNamara now. He voted against the government (in favour of allowing abortions where there are abnormalities or inevitable miscarriages) and appeared to stand over it initially but the party are now claiming he voted against the government by mistake. Is that really the message he wants to send out? Even if he did make that mistake, would he not be better off pretending he has mastered the competence of a two-button machine and claim that his conscience got the better of him?
Interesting case this. To put forward a completely uninformed theory, it seems like the parents viewed abortion as the best option given she was only 20, and dare I say that the father was of non-European origin. Good to see the couple sitting together, embracing afterwards and going ahead with the pregnancy.
The High Court has heard a case involving a man who tried to stop his girlfriend travelling to the UK for an abortion has been withdrawn.
The man had gone to court earlier this week claiming his girlfriend was being forced by her family to have an abortion.
He wanted the court to order a psychiatric assessment of the woman to establish if she was acting of her own free will.
This morning Ms Justice Mary Laffoy was told a sworn statement had been made by the woman.
They were âhappy to put faithâ in the statement and âmatters would continue as at present in relation to the pregnancyâ.
The womanâs statement was not read in court but it is understood she now plans to continue with her pregnancy.
Ms Justice Laffoy described it as an emotive issue and said she hoped things would work out for both sides.
She struck out the case.
The couple sat together in court for the brief hearing and afterwards embraced outside court.
Outside court, a number of anti-abortion activists said they had helped the man take his case to the High Court.
On Wednesday, the 28-year-old man had asked the court for a number of injunctions preventing his 20-year-old girlfriend from undergoing an abortion or from leaving the jurisdiction until it could be ascertained if she was acting of her own free will.
The case was before the court in the womanâs absence.
She attended court later that day and was given an opportunity to seek independent legal advice.
Ms Justice Laffoy said she would not proceed until the woman had received her own legal advice and the case was adjourned to today.
The couple are both foreign nationals but have been residing in Ireland.
In a sworn statement to the court, the man said his girlfriend âis happy to be pregnantâ and ânever expressed any desire to have an abortionâ.
But he said her family is of the view she will be âruinedâ if she has a child with a non-white man.
He said her true intentions are that she registered with a maternity hospital, was looking forward to having a scan in the near future and that she also bought baby clothes for the child.
Barrister SĂŠamas Ă Tuathail said his client discovered that his girlfriend has been booked into a clinic in the UK and was due to undergo a procedure on Thursday.
His client is of the view that his girlfriend is being forced to undergo the procedure by her parents and was under pressure.
He said it was in the best interest of the woman and the unborn to have an assessment carried out by a forensic psychiatrist to see if she was acting of her own free will so the court could be given the best information possible.
The judge had also directed that the Attorney General be notified of the proceedings and be represented in court.
However, senior counsel Eileen Barrington, representing the Attorney General, said it appeared to be a matter involving rights of a private nature and the Attorney General had no role to play in the case.
In his proceedings, the man sought orders restraining his partner from having an abortion or from leaving the jurisdiction until the High Court can ascertain whether she is acting of her own free will.
He also wanted an injunction restraining her parents from taking her out of the jurisdiction until it can be ascertained if she was acting of her own free will.
The man, in asking the court to vindicate the rights of his unborn child, also wanted the court to order an urgent investigation to be undertaken by a forensic scientist to ascertain if she was being brought to the UK against her will before permitting her to leave the country for an abortion.
He has also said that he has no desire to restrain her from travelling should that be her freely held wish.
The couple have known each other for a year, but her family have not accepted their relationship.
The man says his girlfriendâs family are deeply unhappy with the fact she is in a relationship with someone of non-European origin.
They had moved in together at a location away from her family, who also reside in Ireland, but had been forced to leave their home by her family, he claimed
I liked it up until the bit about the anti-abortion activists helping yer man take his case to the high court.
But fuck the family, they sound like a bunch of narrow-minded pricks.
My view on abortion is that itâs ok if the child canât be cared for. I was able to care for my boy, though it was a desperate struggle for the first year, but now when he tells me down the phone that he loves me, I couldnât imagine him not being around. And, indeed, my parents were dead set against the whole thing. My father refused to acknowledge him for months. Which makes it kinda funny that my boy went and fell asleep on his lap the other day for a couple of hours. People know nothing and weâre all just making it up. Let women decide what they want to do and be done with it ta fuck.
[quote=âThrawneen, post: 803740, member: 129â]I liked it up until the bit about the anti-abortion activists helping yer man take his case to the high court.
But fuck the family, they sound like a bunch of narrow-minded pricks.
My view on abortion is that itâs ok if the child canât be cared for. I was able to care for my boy, though it was a desperate struggle for the first year, but now when he tells me down the phone that he loves me, I couldnât imagine him not being around. And, indeed, my parents were dead set against the whole thing. My father refused to acknowledge him for months. Which makes it kinda funny that my boy went and fell asleep on his lap the other day for a couple of hours. People know nothing and weâre all just making it up. Let women decide what they want to do and be done with it ta fuck.[/quote]
Glad things have worked out for you, pal. It was a worrying time when you took an extended hiatus from TFK before returning triumphantly to tell us youâd got some bitch knocked up.
One of the best periods of my life was reading the support I got on here when I came back, mate.
Incidentally, one of the worst was, in an hour of need, taking flak from the likes of MMG and other neâerdowells when I started the âGetting a random bird up the duffâ thread.
Ah great stuff Thrawneen
[quote=âfarmerinthecity, post: 803793, member: 24â]Ah great stuff Thrawneen
[/quote]
Thanks, Barmy. Itâs good knowing weâre always here for each other.
[quote=âThrawneen, post: 803740, member: 129â]I liked it up until the bit about the anti-abortion activists helping yer man take his case to the high court.
But fuck the family, they sound like a bunch of narrow-minded pricks.
My view on abortion is that itâs ok if the child canât be cared for. I was able to care for my boy, though it was a desperate struggle for the first year, but now when he tells me down the phone that he loves me, I couldnât imagine him not being around. And, indeed, my parents were dead set against the whole thing. My father refused to acknowledge him for months. Which makes it kinda funny that my boy went and fell asleep on his lap the other day for a couple of hours. People know nothing and weâre all just making it up. Let women decide what they want to do and be done with it ta fuck.[/quote]
Thatâs a belter of a post
Thanks Mac, Iâm posting from the heart a lot this week. Limerickâs victory on Sunday has sent me into a very emotional place.