Abortion - Yay or Nay? Labane and Sid talk American politics, Codegreen ponders on the cost

The people had their say a couple of years ago. I voted no at the time but I accept the vote and to be honest, it passed with such an overwhelming majority it does not need to be revisited.

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The pro life people are genuinely mentallers though. They’re religious zealots and they’re genuinely a fringe view that get a disproportionate degree of airing of their madcap views.

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There should be a part of everybody that agrees with abortion in certain cases also, and this is the crux of why the antis are portrayed as mentallers

I don’t respect the views of anti-abortionists at all. They’d have women enslaved if they could.

Part of the problem in America and why it has got to the stage it’s got to, is there has been years of gaslighting by self styled “sensible centrists” like Labane that the headcases were not in fact headcases.

The “sensible centrists” were neither sensible nor centrist. They were asleep.

The “hysterical women” were not hysterical.

The anti-abortionists were and are headcases, but highly effective at getting power.

If the essential fascism at the heart of anti-abortionism is not widely accepted and recognised for what it is, we in Ireland are probably doomed to follow America’s path at some point in the future.

The mantra of ‘free, safe and legal’ quickly changed to ‘free and safe for any reason, at any stage of pregnancy’. What Democrats and some politicians here never got was that the majority of people supported abortion but were uneasy at the extremist abortion element that infests debate and media in this country and the US.

The biggest problem in America is the extremes of wealth and poverty. Not too unlike here but much, much worse.

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What is the legal standing as regards late term abortion in Ireland, pardon my ignorance, it seems to be the major obstacle for a lot of the pro life mouthpieces.
I don’t recall voting for that and assume it would only ever occur in the most extreme cases?

Have they even started doing abortions of any kind in Ireland yet?

I don’t even know,

I find that there’s a lot of scaremongering about something that I don’t believe would ever happen,

After 12 weeks it’s only if serious risk of harm to the mother’s life or health or if baby/foetus won’t survive

The issue tends to be that in borderline cases doctors are working under fear of criminalisation and so err on side of caution.

People die when medical treatment is delayed is the concern that’s still expressed.

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I see the looney left want to roll back on everything they said they wouldn’t.

It’s a shame the 8th amendment was ever introduced a removing means we are now heading towards abortion as a form of contraception… Abortions on tap.

It was my one fear and i naively thought we’d not go down that road but you can never underestimate the looney left, they are set on ripping society apart

Next they’ll have a one stop shop for abortion and sex change all under one roof… Buy one get 50% off the other.

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Ah lads :joy: Eliza must have a back like a painters radio “PULL IT OOOOOUT I SAID!!”

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An entire book? She could have stopped at the title

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Myself and Fulvio warned of this but were told that no it’s just in extreme cases of rape etc.

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Very welcome news for women and trans men. :clap:

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