Abortion - Yay or Nay? Labane and Sid talk American politics, Codegreen ponders on the cost

This isn’t just in the US, it’s worldwide. Throw in the growing attacks on the gay community too, such as the Orlando massacre of 2016 and last night’s shooting in a gay club in Oslo which killed two people which looks all but certain to be a hate crime.

There genuinely are lads here who would class the destruction of voting rights via judicial warfare as “democracy”, and would cheer on the destruction of democracy because they think they’re “edgy” and “a bit of craic”. Sure there’s no “would” about it. They’ve already been doing it for a long time.

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Meh, this stuff will result in more Red States flipping as demographics change. They are going to piss off the people who currently aren’t bothered voting.

The GOP are on a path to ruin focusing on abortion. Roe v Wade was the perfect get out of jail free for those sitting on the fence on abortion.

There are huge overlaps here, particularly in accent and toilette etiquette.

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I’d be anti abortion myself but the horse has bolted at this stage. What’s the point of making a woman travel from Texas to New York to get it done? Who does that benefit?

GOP making a huge mistake here I reckon

Unfortunately this kind of complacency has us where we are now.

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Republicans are not making a huge mistake. An assertion that they are holds that US institutions will hold out under the all out anti-democratic attack they are sustaining. They are not holding out and they will not hold out. They are failing dramatically.

You do not vote fascism out.

The Irish media’s hand picked “US politics expert” Larry Donnelly is a great example of the sort of mentality that has crippled well meaning but utterly useless liberals in the US.

Larry seems like a nice, harmless chap. His “both sides” understanding of US politics makes Eamon Dunphy’s takes on Spanish football look expert by comparison. Larry claims to be a Democrat but when he looks at Republicans he only sees decent, respectable people who can be negotiated with in good faith. He has great faith in the good faith nature of Republicans.

To call Larry a fucking clueless moron would be a massive understatement. Larry is the exact type of useless corporate Democrat that has hobbled the Democratic party and liberal America in general, who have stood by and enabled this dystopian mess in the name of “reaching across the aisle”. Morons.

To be fair here,Eamon was RTEs “Spanish football expert” as an addition to John roles as “Senior analyst”

Been a long travelled path but they’re here now and this is just the beginning.
Gotta hand it to them, evil fucks that they are kept their eye on the ball all the way and now that they have the SCOTUS so skewed, everything they want is up for grabs.

That’s just it. Cunts

How does Democracy work again?

Differently in America to here. They weight their votes in terms of representation.

The Onion | America’s Finest News Source.

Democracy is a whole eco-system. In America that whole eco-system is completely broken.

That broken nature of the system goes way, way beyond the bare mechanics of the political system - how people are elected and represented - which is itself completely broken.

The paradox of democracy, and of tolerance in general, is that there are certain ideologies which cannot be tolerated, and we all know why that is.

Those ideologies, in their most infamous form, in 1930s Germany, came to power through their abuse and corruption of the democratic system, and the so called upholders of democracy allowing themselves to become either corrupted, hoodwinked or cowed by the holders of these ideologies.

This is exactly what has happened again, in America, and will continue to happen, and get much worse.

Fascists both hide who they are, and tell you exactly who they are.

That so many liberals and “reasonable conservatives™” have fallen for this trick again is the result of both a profound failure of imagination and a grotesque ignorance of history.

It’s the political equivalent of a man who refuses to go the doctor because “it’s nothing” and then, when he finally is left with with no alternative but to go, it’s too late, his cancer is terminal.

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Maybe I’m just a little older and aware but The world seems completely messed up at the moment. Between wars, covid, global warming and various political issues it can really bog you down. No one person is responsible or can fix it.

The one thing we can all do is just be kinder in general and help people who are less fortunate.

There is literally no point trying to solve these
Issues by debating with people with opposite opinions.

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Don’t forget the split season.

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This thug, Jeann Lugo is his name, is the true representation of anti-abortionists’ views on women, especially black women.

There seems to be a lot of anger about the Rally for Life march. Lots of “I can’t believe so many Indians were there given Savita”.

The delegitimising of anti abortion views is well under way. Reality is that abortion has popular support in Ireland, cool the jets trying to make all people who don’t agree with it out as assholes.

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There’s a little bit of everyone that doesn’t agree with abortion surely? Unfortunately, the extremists will always be the yard stick when it comes to sensitive issues like this.

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