All Ireland Hurling Championship 2014

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Context

"CLARE boss Ger Loughnane last night slated RTE in an amazing car- park confrontation with one of the stations producers outside the Limerick Inn where the controversial Munster Council meeting to deal with Colin Lynch was taking place.

Amidst amazing scenes, Loughnane dubbed RTE “an absolute disgrace” after they had mistakenly reported on their 9pm news bulletin that Lynch’s grandmother, Mary Ann Clohessy, had died.

Loughnane had earlier told interviewer Marty Morrissey
that Mrs Clohessy, who had been seriously ill all week, had been taken off a life-support machine and all medication. Loughnane had explained that this was the reason why Lynch was not at last night’s meeting.

But the Clare boss told RTE producer Maurice Reidy that he never said the woman was dead. Loughnane has never been so irate and it threatens to push the current uneasy situation in Clare out of proportion completely.

Lynch was reported to be at his grandmother’s bedside as the meeting took place last night.

When Loughnane heard what the station had reported he stormed out of a hotel room where he had been waiting with Clare officials, barged through the hotel foyer and blasted: “Where’s Morrissey? Where’s Marty Morrissey?”

He marched out to the hotel car-park where the RTE crew were putting their equipment away and confronted Reidy with an angry reaction.

He boomed: "Have the Lynch family not suffered enough? There are relatives ringing in from all over the place. It’s an absolute disgrace. I said that the woman was taken off a life-support machine and that she was off all medication. Nobody here ever said she was dead. Your station has no respect for Clare, but most of all, you have no respect for the Lynch family who have suffered enough.

" Your station announced that she was dead. Well she’s not dead, so you’ve got your facts wrong."

Loughnane was flanked by Clare secretary Pat Fitzgerald and hordes of Banner supporters who had gathered at the hotel for the late night meeting.

Earlier in the day, Lynch had failed in a last-minute high-court bid to stop the Munster Council from considering disciplinary action against him last night.

Mr Justice O’Higgins rejected a contention that Lynch would be deprived of fair procedures because he had not seen the video of the incident or the clarification of the referees report prior to the meeting."

In a frankly bizarre twist of fate, Loughnane was himself falsely reported to be dead some years later

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[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 950151, member: 706”]Context

"CLARE boss Ger Loughnane last night slated RTE in an amazing car- park confrontation with one of the stations producers outside the Limerick Inn where the controversial Munster Council meeting to deal with Colin Lynch was taking place.

Amidst amazing scenes, Loughnane dubbed RTE “an absolute disgrace” after they had mistakenly reported on their 9pm news bulletin that Lynch’s grandmother, Mary Ann Clohessy, had died.

Loughnane had earlier told interviewer Marty Morrissey
that Mrs Clohessy, who had been seriously ill all week, had been taken off a life-support machine and all medication. Loughnane had explained that this was the reason why Lynch was not at last night’s meeting.

But the Clare boss told RTE producer Maurice Reidy that he never said the woman was dead. Loughnane has never been so irate and it threatens to push the current uneasy situation in Clare out of proportion completely.

Lynch was reported to be at his grandmother’s bedside as the meeting took place last night.

When Loughnane heard what the station had reported he stormed out of a hotel room where he had been waiting with Clare officials, barged through the hotel foyer and blasted: “Where’s Morrissey? Where’s Marty Morrissey?”

He marched out to the hotel car-park where the RTE crew were putting their equipment away and confronted Reidy with an angry reaction.

He boomed: "Have the Lynch family not suffered enough? There are relatives ringing in from all over the place. It’s an absolute disgrace. I said that the woman was taken off a life-support machine and that she was off all medication. Nobody here ever said she was dead. Your station has no respect for Clare, but most of all, you have no respect for the Lynch family who have suffered enough.

" Your station announced that she was dead. Well she’s not dead, so you’ve got your facts wrong."

Loughnane was flanked by Clare secretary Pat Fitzgerald and hordes of Banner supporters who had gathered at the hotel for the late night meeting.

Earlier in the day, Lynch had failed in a last-minute high-court bid to stop the Munster Council from considering disciplinary action against him last night.

Mr Justice O’Higgins rejected a contention that Lynch would be deprived of fair procedures because he had not seen the video of the incident or the clarification of the referees report prior to the meeting."

In a frankly bizarre twist of fate, Loughnane was himself falsely reported to be dead some years later[/QUOTE]
:smiley:

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I would fear for Waterford if the mercury rises much above yesterday’s 12 degrees for the replay.

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[QUOTE=“Fagan ODowd, post: 950151, member: 706”]Context

"CLARE boss Ger Loughnane last night slated RTE in an amazing car- park confrontation with one of the stations producers outside the Limerick Inn where the controversial Munster Council meeting to deal with Colin Lynch was taking place.

Amidst amazing scenes, Loughnane dubbed RTE “an absolute disgrace” after they had mistakenly reported on their 9pm news bulletin that Lynch’s grandmother, Mary Ann Clohessy, had died.

Loughnane had earlier told interviewer Marty Morrissey
that Mrs Clohessy, who had been seriously ill all week, had been taken off a life-support machine and all medication. Loughnane had explained that this was the reason why Lynch was not at last night’s meeting.

But the Clare boss told RTE producer Maurice Reidy that he never said the woman was dead. Loughnane has never been so irate and it threatens to push the current uneasy situation in Clare out of proportion completely.

Lynch was reported to be at his grandmother’s bedside as the meeting took place last night.

When Loughnane heard what the station had reported he stormed out of a hotel room where he had been waiting with Clare officials, barged through the hotel foyer and blasted: “Where’s Morrissey? Where’s Marty Morrissey?”

He marched out to the hotel car-park where the RTE crew were putting their equipment away and confronted Reidy with an angry reaction.

He boomed: "Have the Lynch family not suffered enough? There are relatives ringing in from all over the place. It’s an absolute disgrace. I said that the woman was taken off a life-support machine and that she was off all medication. Nobody here ever said she was dead. Your station has no respect for Clare, but most of all, you have no respect for the Lynch family who have suffered enough.

" Your station announced that she was dead. Well she’s not dead, so you’ve got your facts wrong."

Loughnane was flanked by Clare secretary Pat Fitzgerald and hordes of Banner supporters who had gathered at the hotel for the late night meeting.

Earlier in the day, Lynch had failed in a last-minute high-court bid to stop the Munster Council from considering disciplinary action against him last night.

Mr Justice O’Higgins rejected a contention that Lynch would be deprived of fair procedures because he had not seen the video of the incident or the clarification of the referees report prior to the meeting."

In a frankly bizarre twist of fate, Loughnane was himself falsely reported to be dead some years later[/QUOTE]

Loughnane was box office.

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if they ever found out up feakle way that it was @twiceasnice97 that started that rumour re loughnane there would be all out war.

Friend of mine was with Mary’s (Gers wife) brother the night that fcuking rumour broke and he got so shocked he took out his mobile and hit Gers number…“Hi Minogue, I bet you’ve never spoke to a dead man before” was shot down the line before he even realized what he’d done

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[QUOTE=“Kid Chocolate, post: 950260, member: 553”]if they ever found out up feakle way that it was @twiceasnice97 that started that rumour re loughnane there would be all out war.

Friend of mine was with Mary’s (Gers wife) brother the night that fcuking rumour broke and he got so shocked he took out his mobile and hit Gers number…“Hi Minogue, I bet you’ve never spoke to a dead man before” was shot down the line before he even realized what he’d done[/QUOTE]

you could not trust the Shannon lads, no parish allegiance

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agree 100%
not dumb at all, when i was 23 id piss thru 90 mins twice a week, 10 years later, i am bolloxed after 75 ,and that is playing at an intensity level below Ireland albeit the skill and concentration required here is ten times more, anyone who makes the point that years of conditioning help teams last longer is wrong

1008

Half time is a bastard now. And blitzes even worse. You stiffen up straight away, especially on hard ground.

1009

Unreal… never stop moving, once you do you seize up like a throbbing cock

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It’s fucking amazing. You feel ok til half time, then you can’t run properly or even bend down properly for the the first part of the second half. You’re sore from your nipples down.

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First of all I doubt that. What “conditioning” have you been doing?

But anyway, you may have been training poorly hence performance dropping. If you trained correctly with proper rest, recovery, strength training etc, by 27-32 range no young lad of similar ability should be able to stay with you.
However I doubt you were training well, the vast majority of people still don’t unless in a proper coaching environment with everything laid out for them.
You are trying to argue with science here as well. Those Waterford lads would have a low training age compared to a Shane O Neill or Nash. The first thing to go when not fit enough is the head, hence the decision making faultered near the end, which is normal and understandable.

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 950334, member: 273”]First of all I doubt that. What “conditioning” have you been doing?

But anyway, you may have been training poorly hence performance dropping. If you trained correctly with proper rest, recovery, strength training etc, by 27-32 range no young lad of similar ability should be able to stay with you.
However I doubt you were training well, the vast majority of people still don’t unless in a proper coaching environment with everything laid out for them.
You are trying to argue with science here as well. Those Waterford lads would have a low training age compared to a Shane O Neill or Nash. The first thing to go when not fit enough is the head, hence the decision making faultered near the end, which is normal and understandable.[/QUOTE]
Multiple ironmans. Austin gleesons head wasn’t the problem near the end.

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Well there you go.

The damage you do you joints on distance road running is ridiculous.
It has fuck all to do with the age you are, it’s the way you trained.
I seriously doubt you were getting the treatment of a well trained IC hurler or indeed doing mobility and stability work which would be crucial for such training and competition. And don’t tell me you were cos I’ve never met an Amatuer who did them and looked after themselves properly. All “no pain, no gain” bull shit.

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However flatly, that does not mean you couldn’t sort yourself out btw. Guessing you are the 30 mark, you could get back to feeling in your 20’s again no bother. I’m faster, stronger, more flexible, less injured now at nearly 37 than I was at 27.

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No I’m older than that. I do very little road running, but swim to a decent standard and do about 150 miles a week on the bike. Was playing, or trying to play hurling until recently. My older brother is an international oarsman though, and they were well ahead of the curve and I ave talked to and trained with him for years. I train with the tri club regularly and have professional coaches for all disciplines through them. I do all my running off road and do very little until a few weeks before. I do some fell and trail running as well though I am not naturally a good runner. I try to do weights in the garden once a week if I get time.

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Strength training doesn’t have to involve weights, in fact it probably shouldn’t in-season if you are an Endurence athlete.
Taking advice/tips from athletes :rolleyes:

However, if you are much older it might just be Father Time as well.
I toyed with playing hurling this year but the coaching takes up a lot. It will be next before I will know how able I am for a football season.
My plan and advice to aging players is, do a smart but big pre-season of 12 weeks. Then only field train once a week and manage yourself intrinsically with recovery, strength and flexibility. Walking straight off the field and jumping into a car after a shower in the end of most lads.
If you’re (or me) are not contributing then give it up and pursue something else.

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I thought I was contributing, but it was made obvious that I wasn’t, and wasn’t really welcome so I left, but I miss it. You speak sense Kev, but weight training works for me, especially Russian squats for back ache. If i stop doing them I quickly start getting lower backache on the bike. Could you recommend a decent stretching programme though? My flexibility is poor and getting worse.

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Ps I trained/train with him, so rather than tips, it is personal supervision. He still rows at a decent level.

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Firstly, whatever works, it’s rare you hear someone saying squats helps their back ache, but you obviously squat properly.
Look up mike boyles 8 essential mobility exercises. Very good starting point.

This is also a good warm up (based on same joint by joint principals Boyle pushes), I have taken this, adjusted it somewhat for football. No soft tissue injuries yet this year, I’m extremely proud of that. Only 3 months in, but still good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23IAMXjzISg

Traditional 30 sec plus stretches after training are still best. But 2-3 morning mobility circuits and something like that warm up will make a big difference. Believe me the science behind the warm up is sound and I have now trialled it personally for a few weeks first an then with a team

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Thanks Kev. I do those Russian ones where you hold the weight at the front in the crook of your elbows. It makes it very difficult to get in the wrong position I find. I also don’t go mad with the weight. Actually you can’t go mad with the weight because its fucking sore on your arms even with a towel around the bar. I actually think my ironmanning is over. It is full of type a’s these days who talk about nothing else, and tri bores are, well, boring. I’ve made some great friends in the club, but we never talk about it, and I’ve seen it wreck more than one marriage, though there may be chicken and egg in that. The Norseman is the only one I am tempted by, but I’m not sure I can be bothered. Things are ok at present and I had myocarditis a while back and have gone steady enough since.