The same as every other team. Promotion and relegation is a fact of most sports. I donât think Laois wouldâve beat Dublin without the confidence they got from the Joe McDonagh campaign
But it isnât like any normal promotion and relegation. We need to encourage and bring these sides on, sending Carlow back down will regress their growth if anything. This is a unique situation. Itâs not like the premiership and the championship.
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At least Carlow are in division 1 of the league still. As are westmeath, who are in a cuntish division. Theyâll get the mother and father of hidings in 1a.
Make it six teams and that the promoted team is safe for a year.
Big mick how would you seed the leinster teams?
Is it not the same as a club getting relegated to intermediate from senior? I think you have to feel like you really belong somewhere to give it your best. Laois will have that next year and should give it a good go again. I donât think another year with less enthusiasm about it would do Carlow much good
The gap is still too big, plough money into coaches and development officers in westmeath offaly laois and carlow. Itâll take a few years to attempt to make them competitive but more games for their senior teams next year wonât change much.
Hurling isnât too badly off theres theoretically 6-8 teams that can win it. Thats way more than football.
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So Laois and Carlow essentially do a Lannigans ball on it and each steps in and out again in alternate years. Thatâs what your suggesting here. No one benefits from that.
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You can pump all the money that you want but unless clubs get their act together in these counties you are at nothing.
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We need as many hurling counties as possible ⌠The logical thing to do is to scrap the provincialâŚtheyve had their day.
Two mixed groups of six⌠You can still have promotion / relegation
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Thats what im saying, coaches and games development officers can do wonders there
I donât think teams benefit from getting hammered either. In the first year up youâll have confidence and motivation and keep it somewhat close to the bigger teams. After that, I think it just becomes a bit of a slog and youâll go out thinking youâre beat before the game starts. Laois obviously have the opportunity to do better than that as theyâve shown
The reality is these counties arenât going to improve unless theyâre competing well at underage levels anyway. Teams donât magically improve from a low base by playing the better teams every year
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Wouldnât disagree with that. But then again Iâm not the one who needs convincing
They evidently donât improve by beating weaker counties either
What good are those if kids dont show up?
The Joe McDonagh and Christy Ring especially should be marketed better and shown on TV to make them more prestigious. Carlow for example, what is it four senior clubs? Theyâre never going to win an All Ireland but a Joe McDonagh is really a remarkable achievement when you look at their resources and it should be seen as such
Iâll tell you something. If Laois or indeed Carlow were guaranteed all home games in their first year up, No one would relish going there and they would take at least one scalp
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I think Laois have improved by beating teams of a similar, slightly lesser standard. You need a mix of both
Thatâs a good idea
Chances are its role reversal next year, Laois going down and Carlow going up. Does nothing for either county. Both need a sustained number of years competing at that level to properly and consistently get up to the standard. Meanwhile Munster, where Waterford have failed to win any of eight championship matches over the past two years and have sustained any number of hidings way worse than Carlow or Laois is ring fenced against relegation.
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They canât do that because then the dubs or Galway would go down. The Gaa canât risk that. They canât risk a strong county going down. Theyâd rearrange it soon enough if that happened