All-Ireland Hurling Championship 2019 II*** Up Laois

Its not a case of when, but how many.

1 Like

Depends.
It was Dave Keanes downfall when he took over the Limerick seniors. There was a few heavyweights from the 90s team still hanging around. They wielded way too much influence and should have been cut.

1 Like

Possibly but with the development squad model being used in the 8 or 9 serious hurling counties and the structure at senior level these days I think the gap between the big three and the rest is well and truly closed and will never go back to what is was for the majority of the history of the gaa.

That’s not to say the big thee won’t win their fair share of A/I’s but championships are now far more even compared to a couple of generations ago.

1 Like

A few of them would gladly give him a poison chalice I’d say.

1 Like

Ah, you’re being all earnest now, not peddling the original clannish and parochial line anymore.

He also kept a few lads as old or older, condon, Browne and Richie McCarthy are still on the panel FFS. Getting rid of fellas for the sake of it one of those nonsense gaa clichés that’s bandied about, “bring in the young lads and build for three years”, pure nonsense. I’m surprised at you actually. Only an idiot would get rid of Kearney for example.

I’m not saying do away with all of them but they need to shake it up and blood lads and try and get four or five lads in who can potentially change their style of hurling. The Cork team which lost to Wexford and was at a supposedly very low ebb won Munster the following year by adding fresh blood in Coleman, Fitzgibbon, Spillane, Kingston and O’Donoghue. It reinvigorated the team and they looked a completely different side in the space of less than 12 months.

Kearney is a nice hurler but in essence a gadget player and hasn’t been half as effective this year. Teams nullified him without even having to man mark him by simply having a wing forward fill the space he wants to run into. He may well have a significant role to play and was not Cork’s worst player this year but aside from a run of form last year he is been a middling enough intercounty hurler for the majority of the last 8 years or so he has been on the panel.

Cork’s big issue this year is that they were forced to go direct on their own puckouts and compete for ball in their half forward line and the half forward line were incapable of doing so. Tipp and Kilkenny devoured them, they got the better of Limerick because Nash was able to go long to the likes of Walsh and Cadogan making runs from the full forward line as Limerick’s half backline line was pulled all over the place. It would stand to reason that a new management might look at one of the younger lads who is athletic and can compete for ball rather than someone like Kearney or Meade who are nice hurlers when the game is played on their terms but lack ball winning ability.

This is intercounty hurling and tough decisions are needed somethings, being good isn’t good enough. There are loads of examples in the not too distant past of sides with plenty of new players and fresh blood coming good and winning all irelands. The Clare team that won in 95 was very different to that of 94, i’d say only 4 or 5 Galway lads played in the 2012 and 2017 finals, Limerick last year, Cork in 1999, Tipp in 2010 etc but i can’t recall one side who fell short numerous times who finally came good and won an All Ireland with in essence the core of the same side that had consistently fell short.

3 Likes

Its about keeping the right lads who will set the right example more than anything.

2 Likes

Maybe not this time around but at some point. Yes. Absolutely

Do the county board still cringe at the site of the lads who were involved in the strike back in the day?

No idea. But the county board is changing.

Pat Mulcahy was on strike. He will be a good bellweather

1 Like

Ah yeah. It just to me seems that some of the members of the team from that era would be interested.

1 Like

Never buddy.

1 Like

Nothing is never kid!!!

1 Like

Never

100 percent glas is all wrong here. A player can be very good but if he doesn’t work with the squad and the management he needs the boot. Nowadays player power is very dangerous. You can see what happened in Waterford when a player was dropped from ballygunnar this season. No matter how good a player is the squad as a whole is more important.

1 Like

Justin McCarthy tried the same too. John kiely was blessed as a fair chunk of the 2013 Munster team had moved themselves on.

2 Likes

The fact they believe such a thing exists is the root of their problem.

Great to see the Limerick lads after winning one all Ireland since 1852 advising Cark.

6 Likes

Dry your eyes mate

1 Like