All-Ireland Hurling Championship 2019 II*** Up Laois

On a sample size of four, none of the provincial champions in 2018 or 2019 won their following semi-final, Galway only reaching the final by one point in a replay, and after they had won their provincial final in a replay, so less of a gap

Waterford in ‘17

Extra time I think

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What was it that Kiely and Limerick were supposed to be doing when they came to Thurles in the round robin? ‘shadow boxing’ I think they called it at the time. They’ll have plenty of time for that over the coming three weeks…

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3 weeks? 6 months you mean.

The biggest thing in Wexford’s favour is their age profile, it’s young with a lot of players born around 1995 and no key players nearing retirement

But they need four or five more players to strengthen their panel

Bar possibly Limerick it’s as good an age profile as any of the top seven or eight teams have

I think Wexford have reached their peak been honest and whether Davie stays or goes will make no difference as his set up gets very stale. Id expect the Wexford of last years QF to be the continued path and that’s not even considering Dublin and Laois on their tails next year.

Wexford’s biggest problem next year could be getting out of Leinster

However they will be helped by Dublin having a bad run of fixtures in terms of venues - Dublin will have to go to Wexford and Galway

Wexford made a big jump this year but getting in position to strike for the big prize can be difficult

Exactly. You cannot hurl at the top level by algorithm. Kilkenny are weakest in the full back line. Why blunt your blade in that area?

It makes a huge difference whether Davy stays or goes imo. If Davy goes now there’ll be a sense what if he stayed and it could linger for a few years. They are better letting the shop sink with Davy on board. If Davy leaves it’ll be very difficult for the next man in to follow in his foot steps.

It will always end in tears with Davie and never of joy when he overstays his welcome…

Davy could do a job with Cork. Or Dublin.

I dont think the system wexford play is similar to what Mcgrath done with waterford.

I would love to see Davy given a squad with more depth and talent. I have a feeling that it would be pretty formidable.

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Whats all the hate for Davy? You would have been a big fan once no?

Cark ??

Cork wont appoint outsider. Id love donal og to get it.

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Derek was in charge of Waterford in 2018 and they didn’t win any of their four matches in Munster. That’s where the rot set in.

I heard Ben O Connor would be interested in the position were it to become available…

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I certainly don’t believe that Waterford had a God given right to win anything but Waterford destroyed the u-21 division in a manner that few counties have ever done and Waterford have never done before and may never do again. It was a group of unparalleled promise which welded onto a fairly decent backbone of experienced players like O’Keeffe, Connors, Moran, Brick, the Mahonys and Maurice.

Derek had 4 years to get them over the line. By the end he was as far away as when he started.

I have no gear gra for Patsy as manager either and would be happy now if he went rather than pull the rest of what’s left of the edifice down around him.

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I have always been relatively indifferent to him. I gave him the benefit of the doubt enough times but I have grown tired of the same old ways and how it is never his fault.

In fairness to the man there are a lot of decent things about him but there is an inherent chip on his shoulder which he will never be able to shake - he can’t help himself as his pre and post match comments show.

The I am the smartest man in the room and the rest of us haven’t a clue and how dare anyone question his methods routine grows old pretty quickly.

His heir apparent Fergal Lynch has been well trained re the same old patter. Given an outstanding group of 16 and 17 year olds, our best since the 2010/2011 vintage and Fergal is cherry picked to manage them despite no previous involvement and the men who have spent 4 or 5 years developing the are told to take a hike. Fergal then repeatedly tells the Clare public about 6 or 7 systems he has developed with them and how nothing was thought of these lads and then sends them out with a sweeper to indoctrinate and blunt them ahead of Davy’s attempted return in a few years time. They got to a Munster final in spite of his management and the majority are underage again next year they will be subjected to the same auld bullshit.

No expense spared on the minors this year by Pat Fitz while Sean Doyle was begrudgingly given the under 20s against Pat Fitz’s wishes and they find that no food is provided after games. Show up in Cusack Park for challenge matches and find that Pat can’t be arsed to show up to open the dressing rooms so they have to tog out behind the stand and play Cork in the championship wearing jerseys which are five years old.

Davy for all he was an excellent keeper and a great character in the gaa and an all ireland winning manager with us should be a man who is revered in Clare but it takes a special kind of man to wear out that type of goodwill. Himself and his auld lad seem to have this notion that Clare hurling is their birthright and fuck anyone who would side against them.

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