All-Ireland Hurling Championship 2019 II*** Up Laois

Can you perhaps weed out these people so as we can administer the proper beatings in due course?

youā€™ll find them where all the idiots merge, facebook, twitter, boards etc.

on another somewhat related point, Brian Gavin was calling for Kevin Foley to be booked for the tackle at that incident. Foley went in with his hands outstretched and McGrath (I think?) lifted his arm up and ducked so that it looked like a head high tackle. Foley immediately dropped the hurl and pulled his arms back, but it was too late. This type of ā€œhead high tackleā€ is no way comparable to actual head high tackles. Shrugging your opponents arms up and ducking is not the same as being clotheslined and refs need to start copping on to this. Similar to grabbing an opponents hurl/arm when they tackle and you fall over in a heap and con the ref.

Gavinā€™s article was a disgrace.

I thought the Callinan yellow was somewhat harsh and yet Duignan was saying it could easily have been a red card for a head high tackle.

Fanning came out with the ball and stooped down to break Callinanā€™s tackle. Callinan had his arm out and if Fanning had stayed somewhat upright rather than ducking into it then it would have been a perfectly fair tackle and his arm would have been around Fanningā€™s midriff but as Fanning ducked into it his arm made contatc with his helmet.

Very little you can do as a tackler in that instance and there was zero intent.

@Bandage - I couldnā€™t find your tweet castigating Brian Gavin. Iā€™m not great at twitter mind.

yeah thats another one. Put the head down and charge into the opponents arm. As you say, what can the defender do?

AFL had a bad time of ducking and shrugging the shoulders up to draw a high tackle free. They changed rules that if you duck or shrug the arms up, then it isnt a free. It stopped the problem fairly quickly.

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Yeah but duignan is a complete eejit. On the first replay of the square ball goal he said yes heā€™s outside the square when the ball was struck thatā€™s fine and two minutes later he says itā€™s definitely a square ball shouldnā€™t be allowed.

On the square ball incident, it would have been impossible for the umpire to say definitively in realtime whether it was a square ball or not given the ball was coming across the square and McDonald entered from the far side. But iā€™m glad that his gut reaction was to give it.

Incidents like those should always go to the attacking team IMHO but it isnā€™t always the case

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Agree.

I tweeted him LAST YEAR, mate.

Here it is. Donā€™t out me.

I saw Gavin referring to that tackle alright and where it merited a yellow. Supposing the ref sent off a player there and was showing him red just as the hawk eye decision was relayed to him, I know that heā€™d hardly have the red flashed that quickly. But if it did happen, then would the red be rescinded as that play shouldnā€™t have happened, just like the Tipp goal wasnā€™t allowed to stand?

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Thatā€™s an interesting question. Iā€™d say so as players can incur cards as a result of actions when the ball is out of play.

Heā€™s point re booking Foley and therefore preventing the goal issue was some bullshit.

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Did you get any response?

thats a fair enough query alright. Iā€™d imagine it would stand because it would still be a violent act in the game. You still dont have any right to foul or commit a red card offence regardless of whether the play should have been stopped or not.

just say a ball is going up the sideline, and it goes out and the linesman puts up his flag, but a player comes in and swipes across him, it is still a red card offence and the play would stop and go back for the line ball.

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Yeah, that would be right

I did not.

So looking at my timeline from last August, I turned my attention to attacking AIB, the dragons who were announcing themselves as presidential candidates and rubby.

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Think of it another way. Same scenario happens but instead of McGrath finishing off the goal Fanning comes out and hauls him down. As far as both players are aware the ball is in play but as the whistle has sounded I would be very surprised if a ref was to book him for doing it.

You will get booked or red carded for a dirty stroke regardless if it is on or off the ball or play if ongoing or dead. But would a cynical pulldown be a booking if play had technically stopped?

Similar to soccer, if an attacking player makes a run and is offside and the defender doesnā€™t realise and trips him up as last man. The offside will take precedent and the second foul pretty much goes unpunished

But if itā€™s a dangerous trip heā€™d get carded anyway? Just the goal scoring element isnā€™t isnā€™t part of it.

Never happens.
Playing on after the whistle and to a lesser extent during an advantage itā€™s pretty much anything goes.