Amazing how this is being swept under the carpet. Green on green violence. Dispicable.
Itâs all over the Limerick thread pal⌠for at least 2 days now.
The non-application of the steps rule means physical body challenges are the only way to stop teams just waltzing through the middle third.
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Can we, as a forum, get together and draw up a definitive list of âsoftâ All Irelands for the sake of clarity?
Rightly or wrongly the management team have built their culture around a core group of players who they have tried to cultivate onfield leadership to. Continuity in team selection and trying to get these lads to championship pitch as always been their goal as opposed to having real competition for places. Last year it worked and a number of lads found good form and we were a very good side in full flow.
This year bar one or two exceptions pretty much every player has regressed in form and with even a small collective regression in form and workrate you are at nothing at intercounty level.
Clare are down five lads who played against Galway last year along with Cian Dillon added to that Oisin OâBrien and Cathal Mcinerney havenât been able to stay fit over the last two seasons. Add to that Aaron Cunningham, Gudgie and Bobby Duggan who walked away due to lack of gametime. This has left us with a callow and inexperienced bench with few credible options to come in and change the team up.
Podge was picked wing forward in the hope he might bring energy and that he is one of the core group. The other options were Aidan McCarthy who is currently doing his leaving cert, Diarmuid Ryan who is also a teenager or Niall Deasy who simply doesnât have the mobility or speed of hurling for intercounty championship hurling.
The set up is stale, the writing was on the wall during the league. The management will step down once the season is over - most likely Sunday afternoon and god only knows who will come in and take over.
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Ah lovely. 
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Diarmuid Ryan might be a teenager and mightnât have been great against Tipp but heâs a serious talent and would have taken some of the burden off Duggan (and Tuohy).
It seems very harsh to make him the fall guy for the display against Tipp considering Podge has been very poor and youâre already carrying Tony Kelly.
I remember in 2017, ye beat us but an 18-year-old Kyle Hayes was probably our best player. He at least took the fight to Clare despite his youth and Ryan is a good bit of stuff too.
I also thought it was madness having no distributors in the half-back line with the likes of Conlon inside. Shanahan caused wreck last year, I know heâs injured but surely to God there are other backs in Clare who can play a pass.
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- 1989
- 2013
- 1996
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Clare could do with a bit of that fight.
Youâve nailed it.
2008?
Actually 2007 was as bad. Playing Wexford in the semi final that year to get the honour of playing Limerick
Is easy the same as soft?
Depends on who you are debating it with.
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Yes, well either easy or a poor overall standard. 07 and 08 were very soft. 2013 obviously and the ones that Galway won by winning two games obviously
@maroonandwhite has already conclusively established on TFK that Galway were disadvantaged by only having to play 2 games to win a final. Ergo, not soft.
Even the ones where one of the two games was Antrim?
Youâre mistaken there kid.
Itâs been known to happen
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Galway rotated between the Leinster and Munster champions every second year