I would say speed is more important in hurling while stamina and an overall more rounded physique is more important in football which would explain the age divide between both and why its easier to make an impact in hurling at a younger age
Itâs exactly equivalent
No player who ever won a World Cup or European Cup medal played for a professional team before they played for a junior club team where they grew up
They didnât grow up dreaming of playing for those junior teams as an end
Nobody grows up dreaming of playing for their club as an end, of course they grow up dreaming of playing for their county
Your denial that this is the case shows a rather fundamental misunderstanding of human nature
Itâs the same in any field
No child with an interest in music grows up dreaming of being a session musician or playing in a wedding band
What are you shiteing on about. You know less than diddly squat about GAA than you do about horses which is quite an achievement.
Thatâs the sort of line trotted out by rugby fans to try and claim that prop forwards are as fit as top association footballers
Itâs amazing that the âcompletely differentâ type of fitness demanded by Gaelic football is so transferable to hurling
Itâs transferable because itâs pretty much the same, except Gaelic football demands it to a higher standard
No Gaelic football player ever failed to make it in hurling because they werenât fit enough
Look, you are hankering after an intellectual gym. I am hankering after not being bored by puerile analysis of highly complex problems.
I have already explained the inadequacy of the âdreaming ofâ concept. You can expand, quantitatively, erroneous examples all you like but said examples, qualitatively, only amplify the founding error.
Youâre wrong here sid. Some lads will obviously have the physique for both sports, although not many at the highest level in both these days but the requirements are different for both. Why do you think you could name so many footballers who were brilliant into their mid to late 30s there while thereâs very few in hurling?
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I would say the goal of 99.8% of players who have played senior club level, and who were actually good enough to play senior inter-county, is to play senior inter-county
Those few who donât have that ambition are just that, lacking in ambition
Any person who takes a sport seriously wants to play at the top level of it
Those that donât, donât take it seriously
Fuck knows what youâre on about, only yourself, I suspect, and even then I donât think you know
This is actually pretty simple stuff, but apparently not for you who has a notion of fior gaeldom which doesnât exist in the minds of normal, rational people
The average distance in the hurling championship was 9.8km last year. It was 9.6 in football. Sidney hasnât a clue but that wonât stop him for the next three days.
None of that is dealing with what he said. The goal for the vast majority of club players is nothing to do with intercounty
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Ah yeah, I knew some sort of reference to âfior gaeldomâ would be trotted out⊠Amazing how this rĂĄimĂ©is unites self righteous left and poisonous right. But â not amazing at all.
You should take up being a milkman. You always deliver.
Limerick won 34 All Irelands in my back garden. I was top scorer and man of the match in each game. My empty can of castrol gtx was lifted with pride as I climbed the table in my back garden to thousand of adoring fans.
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Edit: I had no friends
Tony Browne played until he was 40
Paul Flynn
Joe Dooley
Larry OâGorman
George OâConnor
Nicholas English
Pat Fox
Henry Shefflin
DJ Carey
JJ Delaney
Brian Corcoran
Conal Keaney
Lar Corbett
Brick Walsh
TJ Reid is at his peak now at nearly 32
There are very few footballers who were ever at their peak in their mid to late 30s
Name us a few there
Conal Keaney was a grand hurler but struggled on Sunday versus a bunch of lads running liquor out of their system
I have in fact dealt specifically with what he said whereas he genuinely tried to make out young lads playing association football dream of playing for Wayside Celtic, not Liverpool, which is an assertion so obviously preposterous it doesnât merit a response
The vast majority of club players are not good enough to play senior inter-county and know they arenât
Those that are good enough and those that know theyâre good enough all dream of playing of it at some stage of their career at the very least, if they donât itâs because they lack ambition and drive
He beat the supposedly impregnable Galway half-back line that won the All-Ireland just two years ago up a stick three weeks ago
Thatâs not a very good response
Iâve merely made some simple and obviously correct points in response to some of your weird and obviously wrong notions
For a man who prides himself on being an intellectual you sure donât show it very much, the paucity of argument in your responses has been rather disappointing to say the least
Fior gaeldom is by definition a right-wing phenomenon
Whatever about our disagreement regarding hurling and football, I would back you up on this point. Thereâs probably a couple of exceptions though. In hurling I think anybody from Antrim would fulfil there dreams with a club All Ireland. I also remember a conversation with an Olouglhlan gales in Kilkenny club man a few years back. Kilkenny were winning AIs for fun back then and he said he was at a stage where he would get more satisfaction from seeing a club AI. AT which stage I told him they had won too much.
You really are an awful clown. Ego keeps driving you further out on the creaking branch.
âweirdâ⊠âFior gaeldomâ⊠The stock revisionist know nothingisms.
The question raised in this topic, which cricked my interest, is relatively straightforward: can the intercounty arena be made stronger by weakening the club arena? No amount of soft focus guff about dreaming children will alter the lineaments of this crux.