All Ireland Hurling Final 2014- Kilkenny vTipperary

cluaindiuic · September 25, 2014, 3:29pm

Kilkenny will be announcing their team tonight.

Fagan_ODowd · September 25, 2014, 3:30pm

A nation holds it’s fucking breath.

theLockes · September 25, 2014, 6:01pm

Gonna say
King in for DHW
P Walsh in for Holden

flattythehurdler · September 25, 2014, 7:08pm

Looking at the players on each team and who may have room to improve, I think kk have more space to improve. I think that Michael Fennelly in particular has played way below the level he is capable of and maybe with the couple months hurling under his belt now might approach delivering a performance. He could be a game winner. Kk may also have the depth to make a few telling changes to their starting line up. For Tipp on the other hand there is no player who you could suggest has it in them to play to a far higher level than last day out. Their one potential change is Cahill, one of the best hurlers in the country, but they then have the quandary of whether to stick him. At midfield on Hogan maybe and if so does that upset their balance there. I don’t have any doubts about kk being mentally tired, it’s not something that appears to affect them. I was surprised at Tipps mental strength the last day. They have tended to lose close games in recent years and I expected the pattern would repeat again but they showed serious grit clawing back the last day to almost nick it, they’ll take heart from that and carry on til the end of the replay also.

All true, against that, will tipp miss as many goal chances again? Lars in particular was very unlucky. All to play for.

corner_back · September 25, 2014, 7:17pm

Padraig Walsh, Kieran Joyce, John power in for Holden, B hogan and dhw. Tipp unchanged

Kid_Chocolate · September 25, 2014, 7:50pm

imagine reconstructing your HB line and expecting to win an AI

cluaindiuic · September 25, 2014, 8:29pm

Depends on how you looks at it. Imagine conceding 1-28 and not re-evaluating things.
Brian Hogan has been dealing with an injury for a while so his exclusion doesn’t surprise me.

corner_back · September 25, 2014, 8:47pm

ballsy selection. Joyce centre back now the key for Kk. Could all go very right or wrong

cluaindiuic · September 25, 2014, 9:12pm

If it goes right you have found your 6 for the future. Joyce at 27 could stake his claim there for a few years.
Win or lose there is massive clear-out on the way.

Watchyourtoes · September 25, 2014, 9:18pm

[QUOTE=“cluaindiuic, post: 1022521, member: 258”]
Win or lose there is massive clear-out on the way.[/QUOTE]
No??? really? :rolleyes:

Piles_Hussain · September 25, 2014, 9:29pm

[QUOTE=“cluaindiuic, post: 1022521, member: 258”]If it goes right you have found your 6 for the future. Joyce at 27 could stake his claim there for a few years.
Win or lose there is massive clear-out on the way.[/QUOTE]
Yep, I thought he should have been given a run there during the league.
P Walsh coming in isn’t a big surprise to be honest but Power in at corner is some curveball. Every ball into that corner in the first game was over Wally’s head, which gave him no chance as changing direction isn’t his strong point. Barrett had a field day as a result. Power’s speed poses a different question, who knows how it will go for him, I wouldn’t be massively confident though.

Bandage · September 25, 2014, 9:43pm

I forgot about this game until yesterday due to the bizarre 3-week gap to the replay. I might tune in depending how the Saturday afternoon foursomes are going in Gleneagles.

downyourthroats · September 25, 2014, 10:17pm

Tipp - No changes, nice and settled.

Kilkenny - 3 changes, all over the shop.

Tipp by 10

Fitzy · September 25, 2014, 10:44pm

I’d imagine Brian Cody could field the minor team and still expect to win the AI. Did you seriously think after shipping 28 points in the drawn game he’d leave everything as is?

Kid_Chocolate · September 25, 2014, 10:50pm

I pointed out before the first game that the HB line were the worst Kk ever fielded in an AI final. They had to make changes alright, but unless they score another 3-4 goals Tipp will waste them . He needs to swallow his pride , man for man Kk are no longer good enough at the back. I don’t expect to see Fogarty or M Fennelly venture inside the Tipp 45. Theyll park the bus, Even still they won’t be good enough. Serious opportunity for Tipp

balbec · September 25, 2014, 11:56pm

Tipperary will walk this.

balbec · September 25, 2014, 11:56pm

But limerick never feared tipp.

Fitzy · September 26, 2014, 12:13am

But hasn’t he just swallowed his pride by making those changes?

Gary_Birtles_Lovechi · September 26, 2014, 2:59am

LOL at Michael Duignan saying Cody should start Shefflin. I like Duignan but he’s off his rocker saying shit like that.

I think people are quick to write off KK, yet of the team teams, they are the ones who have the most improving to do. They’ll have learnt a lot from 3 weeks ago. Tipp hit 29 scores, were probably the better team, yet still couldn’t win. Tipp have hit the ceiling yet KK have another gear in them I reckon.

KK by 3.

Bad_Winner · September 26, 2014, 3:19am

[QUOTE=“Gary Birtles Lovechild, post: 1022613, member: 2585”]LOL at Michael Duignan saying Cody should start Shefflin. I like Duignan but he’s off his rocker saying shit like that.

I think people are quick to write off KK, yet of the team teams, they are the ones who have the most improving to do. They’ll have learnt a lot from 3 weeks ago. Tipp hit 29 scores, were probably the better team, yet still couldn’t win. Tipp have hit the ceiling yet KK have another gear in them I reckon.

KK by 3.[/QUOTE]
Tipp have struggled to close out games from winning positions under O’Shea, they bottled it more than KK coming back although what they did was the mark of a resilient and for want of a better description, winning team.
One thing I know about that Tipp team is that a significant portion of the players think they are Gods gift (I don’t have a problem with that mindset in an athlete), they will feed off the confidence of simply not losing to Kilkenny again and the thoughts of another year of shenanigans.
Bubbles is the key, if he can get 4/5 long range scores over the course of the game Cody won’t be able to crowd the his half backline and the space will be there for Maher to run into, for the two enigmas to pick off scores and Lar to create a goal or two.