All Ireland Hurling Final 2025 - Tipp's 29th

This.

Leary should have known better. Break the tackle, retain the possession. When lads like Connors get momentum they only have 1 gear.

Managers plan, players implement. In the overall scheme of things I’m apportioning the majority of the blame to the players for this collapse. There was a ‘Nicky contact lenses’ type intervention required here but I don’t think that level of maturity is built into this group yet. Pat Ryan needs to wield the axe a bit lower ahead of 2026.

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Will Tipp embrace playing with a sweeper after this?

Should cork have just tapped over a few points instead of trying to work unlikely goals from the 60th minute?

Like they weren’t going to win anyway, but 1-23 and scoring 6/7 points in the 2nd half would be a fair lot better than the embarrassment of 2 bloody points.

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Mark landers blamed the ref :rofl:

The cunt should take a portion of blame. The bluster out of him the past two years was cruel. White pants man gets his opinion off Landers. No other county has a bigger fool in the media. He inflated the hype balloon.

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When can we move in together? Rent or buy, that doesn’t matter

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One of the great Irish expressions, Sound Man!

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Extraordinary alright, but not in a good way

Had he two hawkeye calls on Sunday from fairly standard positions?

He had one for sure. Just not a greater shooter…

In 2018 Cork were freewheeling and Fitzgibbon started goading Richie English and the game turned on that goading.
Sunday you had Horgan goading Shelly and Dalton forcing his way down the tunnel at half when the stewards were trying to stop him.

That’s where it was lost in 2018 and again in 2025.

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I see somebody say Horgan doesn’t deserve an all Ireland.

Then you see landers with one :rofl:

Life is unfair

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Worse again he was captain to lift it. He had a good speech to his credit.

Is Liam sheedy friends with Liam Cahill? Sheedy seems genuinely delighted for Cahill which is a small bit surprising given sheedy was the last man in before him. Usually there’s an awkward phase.

Sheedy was waiting, and I mean waiting for Cahill to step away so he could have the Senior Job.

I’d say Cahill was aware of many murmurings of Sheedy wanting it. I also get the impression Sheedy is delighted for the players moreso than management.

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Greatness isnt defined by All Ireland. Eric Lowdnes has an All Ireland or two.

It’s not who you are underneath, it’s what you do that defines you. Aidan O Shea is a great.

Granted Horgan isnt.

There’s a white pants man? Brave enough if he’s on the stout

Colm Bonnar was manager for one historically unsuccessful season in between the two Liams.

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Just watched it back and the crowd shots of Cork supporters during that period from minute 40-55 is astonishing television. O’Donnell can be mouthread to say, ‘they’re fucked’ when Cahalane is getting ready to come on.

Two key monents for me were Dalton being whipped and Robert Doyle taking Alan Connolly for a spin down under the Cusack Stand.

Dalton being sent to the bench by Willie Connors was humiliating in the sense he had to jog all the way across from the Cusack side to the dugout. Given the incident at half time, it was a real, ‘we have you now moment’. What should have been a big moment for Cork getting Harnedy on the pitch didnt have any sort of desired impact. Once Connors didnt hit Harnedy when he came on, it was a good outcome for Tipp.

Doyle taking Connolly for a spin down the Cusack was a, ‘what the fuck is happening here moment’. Doyle may have ended up hitting a wide from the puckout but the sight of Connolly on the back foot chasing back inside his own half was real, ‘we’re up shit creek now’ stuff.

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I think everyone in Tipp is just relieved that the decade has been ticked off and our proud record continues on into the 2030’s.

There was genuine concern we were in trouble and all hands were on deck to ensure we’d win one by 2029. Whether that be with Cahill/Sheedy/Cummins/Woodlock.

The pressure is now well and truly off.

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I think Loughnane or Tom Ryan could have made this point in a short paragraph

Tue, 22 Jul, 2025 - 03:58

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Kieran Shannon: Cork’s failure suggests a mental as much as a tactical faulty process

When you lose an All-Ireland in the manner Cork did, everything and everyone has to come under the microscope.

You cannot brush it off or aside as you may a league game or even a round-robin championship loss as Cork did with their no-show in the Gaelic Grounds on May 18.

No issue can be danced around, no hard call can be fudged, not when your operation and objective means so much to so many. While you can still take a certain solace and even pride in all the things you must have done right to have got so far, you have to coldly realise that what – and even who – got you so far won’t get you all the way.

As part of that pragmatic realisation and review, about as good a model to adopt is one an Ivan Dale Steiner came up with in 1972, the same year incidentally that Cork last suffered such a comparable calamitous mid-game collapse in an All-Ireland hurling final.

The equation Steiner, a social psychologist by profession, came up with was this: Actual productivity = potential productivity – faulty process losses.

Quite simply, whatever stops your potential productivity being your actual productivity is a result of some faulty process. It’s not just one of those things. Something hindered you. There was a process within the Process that could have been better.

So it is with Cork. The systems failure that was July 20, 2025 occurred because certain – too many – systems failed or were faulty.

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The fortunate situation for Cork is that Pat Ryan would appear to have the humility and passion to acknowledge this. The Cork position is clearly still his for 2026 should he want it. He has enough credit in the bank with the Cork county board and public to be kept on; for him to depart now would feel at least a year premature.

He also retains the faith of the players, though that is not quite the be all and end all given up to a quarter of the 2025 panel may need to be moved on. As a recent All-Ireland winning U20 manager as well as the current senior manager, Ryan is as ideally positioned as anyone to know who needs to be promoted and who needs to be culled.

When you’re part or head of a management team making tough calls and cuts regarding players, your own management cannot remain intact, otherwise you’re implying the fault was in the players, not the sideline or backroom.

Ryan is hugely loyal to whoever he brings into a setup; if you’re with him on his first day, it is his inclination to want you to be still there on his last. But the harsh reality is the Cork sideline and backroom cannot return en masse in 2026 as it is currently constituted.

One of the abiding images of Cork’s meltdown will be the image of Ryan surrounded by five of his management early in the second half; not since a visibly animated Diarmuid Murphy in the 2015 football decider went over to Éamonn Fitzmaurice and Cian O’Neill has a sideline on All-Ireland final day seemed to depart from their customary match-day poise and protocol.

The relevance of Steiner’s model is obvious. There was a clear inefficiency in Cork’s decision-making process on the line last Sunday, most obviously reflected in the indecision and ultimately non-decision to whip Eoin Downey off when he was on a yellow card (as to their credit they did in the 2024 round-robin game against Limerick).

The Cork sideline has to be streamlined and smarter and probably smaller in 2026.

Ever before they had to make an in-game decision like that last Sunday, Cork were tactically outsmarted by Liam Cahill. There is a natural inclination when you get to an All-Ireland final and believe so much in the Process for you to stick to the process and everything else that got you there.

But the reality, which Cahill was wise to, is that to win an All-Ireland final, you have to have processes within that process. You almost always have to have a tactical curveball kept in reserve for All-Ireland final day. Something the opposition wasn’t expecting.

It’s how Cork won their last All-Ireland; for the 2005 final Donal Óg Cusack, instead of opting for his trademark short puckouts, went long and direct towards Brian Corcoran, throwing Galway off-guard just as Mayo were the year before when Kerry bombed diagonal ball into Johnny Crowley.

It may still be true that you cannot win an All-Ireland playing a sweeper – from April to late July. But Tipp showed you can win a key one-off game playing one.

Cork will inevitably now have to scrutinise how they were set up, trained and practised for such an eventuality. They might have talked about encountering a sweeper, but did they practise it? Or if they did practise for it, did they practise for it under pressure?

In the first half the game was being played on Tipp’s terms but Cork coped reasonably well with that sweeper. While they occasionally played some aimless ball into the full-forward line that was picked off by Bryan O’Meara, more often than not they did the right thing.

Play it through the lines. Not force it into the inside trio who still managed a point each. Instead have your midfield and half-forwards pick off the scores.

In the second half Cork deviated from all that, lumping ball upon ball on top of Ronan Maher. Whenever they did play it through the lines it was all down the Hogan Stand side; they didn’t or couldn’t work the ball to the centre channel where they could get off high-percentage shots.

Cork manager Pat Ryan during the closing stages of the GAA Hurling All-Ireland Senior Championship final. Pic: Stephen McCarthy/Sportsfile.

Such a systems failure suggested a mental as much as a tactical faulty process. Gary Keegan has been lauded by this column as much as anyone over the past decade and has rightly been praised by this group of Cork players for his work with them.

But the question needs to be asked: can you honestly say you’ve earned the right to win an All-Ireland by remote when your opposite number, Cathal Sheridan in this case, has been full-time embedded with the opposition?

When he’s there in the dressing room, when he’s at most games, when he’s on the team bus or driving home in his car from a league game and a free he saw missed rankles with him and he’s thinking of suitable interventions?

Keegan may still be the best in that space but he is at his best when embedded in a setup like he is with the Ireland and currently the Lions setup.

This has been his sixth season involved with the Cork hurlers. He helped turn the ship around in 2017 after the lowpoint that was 2016, stayed on to help John Meyler win the Munster title of 2018, while Kieran Kingston brought him back in for 2022 after Sheridan was either not asked or coaxed back as the team performance coach following the 2021 final collapse against Limerick.

If he is on board for 2026 he needs to be fully on board.

With or without him, the Cork process needs to get more primal. While Cork were taking deep breaths, Tipp were breathing fire. There is a tendency to err on the side of being relaxed over revved up on a big occasion like an All-Ireland final, to downplay the outcome and emotion, tiptoe around it. But sometimes you need to spell it out.

Before Cork went out for the second half of the 2004 All Ireland final, Brian Corcoran urged his teammates to remember the hurt of the previous year’s loss, then shouldered into Diarmuid O’Sullivan.

You’re the best full back in the country but you’ve to show it out there. He pointed at and challenged every teammate. Do we want to be crying in a huddle again in 40 minutes time or collecting that cup?

Were Cork players similarly or suitably challenged at half time last Sunday and primed to be the hunters rather than the hunted?

Certain Cork players appeared too casual on Sunday under the mistaken assumption that is their individual zone of optimal functioning as sport psychologists would term it.

Brian Hayes and Alan Connolly may be naturally relaxed individuals, which works for them in general, but to win All-Irelands do they need to bring it up a notch? Both have been instrumental to Cork’s revival since April 2024 but they need to realise what got them and Cork here won’t get them all the way.

In the lead up to Tipperary’s second goal, Connolly was the nearest man to Michael Breen. A Tipperary forward in that situation would have dashed towards Breen, flailing their hurley. While they might not have blocked him down, they’d have affected his line of vision, even his strike.

Connolly just casually jogged in Breen’s direction, allowing Breen to pick out and find John McGrath to win the penalty that resulted in Downey’s second yellow card, McCarthy’s goal, the match itself.

Right there, that’s faulty process. How was Connolly so far off his man? How was he so far off the required intensity and aggression required to win an All-Ireland?

You could keep going on. Cork had no Ronan Maher last Sunday. Rob Downey has the potential to be that player but his upper body still isn’t as physically developed as you’d expect of a player of his training age and under as brilliant a S&C lead as Ian Jones.

Shortly after Downey’s goal in last year’s final, Patrick Horgan missed a free that would have put Cork eight points up. Repeatedly throughout this year’s championship he has left at least one free behind him. Yet he stayed on the frees.

The test and wisdom of that all came down to the free he had when Tim O’Mahony won a free right upon the second-half throw-in. Steiner’s model tells us that was a faulty process.

Horgan has been instrumental to the Cork revival – only for his late penalty against Limerick, Cork don’t even get back to the last game of either 2024 or 2025 – and has been one of the game’s dedicated practice players.

But after Dublin’s meltdown against Donegal in 2014, Jim Gavin made the call: Bernard Brogan, while still Dublin’s best finisher from play, was not clinical enough from the frees to remain on them; a dead-eye dead-ball specialist in Dean Rock was duly elevated to the starting 15.

Do Cork go the same way now with Ben Cunningham? Do they even make the bigger call and Horgan goes the same way as Jason Sherlock and Ciaran Whelan after the startled earwigs affair of 2009?

Whoever takes the frees for Cork going forward need to be practising frees for pressure and in the most optimal way possible which clearly wasn’t the case in 2025.

One of the local universities, MTU, is starting a full-time taught masters in skill acquisition. Will the Cork setup avail of the expertise of the practitioners rolling out that course? Or get some of its own coaching staff to enlist on it?

The last Cork team to deliver Liam MacCarthy abided by the refrain that the inches they needed were all around them. The Cork setup of 2026 needs to be similarly alert and ravenous for them.