I was under the impression, along with the rest of the world I suspect, that height, longer legs, shorter torsos and slender limbs are part of the reason Kenyans are such good distance runners. Of course it could also be the culture of excellence Kenyans have developed in the past 20-30 years or so.
Also the running to school thing is a product of western imagination, with a survey of 14 out of 20 Kenyan race winners saying that they rode a bus to school.
And of course there the altitude but that in itself begs the question about why Nepal arenāt dominating distance runningv
Next thing this bluffing cunt will tell us its because they used to herd sheep. You are some horseshit spouting cunt.
[QUOTE=āTheUlteriorMotive, post: 999591, member: 2272ā]there is a nuance and it is on the edges - some players are lazy - mentally they switch off - workrate is linked to focus and against a team like Kilkenny the focus is there because the fear is there
Limerick donāt inspire that in Cork. Kilkenny do. Tipp do.
Ever watch a Liverpool United derby and the intensity is ratcheted up a notch or watch Liverpool beat Barcelona and lose to Stoke. That is tradition. Players go that percentage extra. Intensity is a branch of focus etc etc[/QUOTE]
Compare Kerryās performances against Longford, Sligo and Antrim in 2009 to their performance against Dublin that year, and compare their performance against Cavan last year to their performance against Dublin.
Kenyan thing is a good one - Brother Colm documentary where he spoke about Rudisha
Rudisha is Kenyan. But Rudisha is not from the Kalenjin tribe which is the tribe most of the Kenyan runners but comes from Massaii tribe . Brother Colmās point was that genetics were not as important as the culture of excellence and that it was a huge part of Kenyan success - you trained with multiple gold medal Olympians etc
[QUOTE=āTheUlteriorMotive, post: 999623, member: 2272ā]Kenyan thing is a good one - Brother Colm documentary where he spoke about Rudisha
Rudisha is Kenyan. But Rudisha is not from the Kalenjin tribe which is the tribe most of the Kenyan runners but comes from Massaii tribe . Brother Colmās point was that genetics were not as important as the culture of excellence and that it was a huge part of Kenyan success - you trained with multiple gold medal Olympians etc[/QUOTE]
Yes, and this was the example you were trying to use to justify youāre silly point above re tradition.
I think what you meant was that its down to an environment of excellence and hard work, which was what I was trying to explain to you above
[QUOTE=āKid Chocolate, post: 999626, member: 553ā]Yes, and this was the example you were trying to use to justify youāre silly point above re tradition.
I think what you meant was that its down to an environment of excellence and hard work, which was what I was trying to explain to you above[/QUOTE]
Eh. They are different points. There is no shades of grey on here. It is all black and white.
Top level sport is decided by narrow margins.
Tradition means Cork are more switched on and focussed and bring more intensity against their biggest rivals KK and Tipp.
In forum parlance āCork never feared Limerickā.
[QUOTE=āTheUlteriorMotive, post: 999634, member: 2272ā]Eh. They are different points. There is no shades of grey on here. It is all black and white.
Top level sport is decided by narrow margins.
Tradition means Cork are more switched on and focussed and bring more intensity against their biggest rivals KK and Tipp.
In forum parlance āCork never feared Limerickā.[/QUOTE]
I wouldnāt quite agree Limerick have always given Cork a good game over the years and if their underage dominance over us translates into dominance at senior level?
Chip could take this, Cahill is a big player for them tho esp against these quick Cork forwards and will need to start. I think JBM will prob not put SON on Callinan he might go with similar matchups he did against Clare. IF Chip work hard enough they can score goals against the Cork FB line. I think it will be a high scoring game with 20+ points each, andā¦Whoever scores the most goals will win!!
[QUOTE=āPeter G, post: 999540, member: 1758ā]Tipp will plough through these chancers without getting out of third gear. For the gamblers on here put your money on Tipp.
Cork are a poor to average team. Limerick due to heavy legs and from over training the week of the game made them look somewhat good the last day.
Tipp are going to pulverise Cork into the ground.[/QUOTE]
If Pa Cronin is out iād still keep Paudie OāSullivan in reserve. Iād have Cian McCarthy in at full forward instead to win ball and set up the finishers. Billy Cooper will give his man plenty of it. Seamie will wage war on Tipp and heās also good for a couple of points a game. Hoggie Lehane and Alan Cadogan them guys will win matches for you and Paudie Stephen Moylan and Jamie Coughlan are serious forward options to have on the bench. Luke OāFarrell could be fit as well. Hoggie or Anthony Nash will bury a few 21 yard frees if they get the chance! Danny Kearney and Aidan Walsh in midfield offer us another scoring outlet. I think the half back line is a lot better with Christopher Joyce and Lorchan McLoughlin in there and Mark Ellis has done a very good job at manning the centre of the defence. You get a rattle of that lad and youāll know all about it! Shane OāNeill and Stephen McDonnell are quality corner backs and Damien Cahalane is well capable of doing a fine job for us at full back. Damien is a tough lad and he has the toughness and nastiness about him to give Seamus Callinan a tough afternoon! We also have William Egan and Conor OāSullivan who was one of the best corner backs in the country last year on the bench. I donāt know what the fuck JBM is at drafting in Mark Collins i suppose heās just letting Brian Cuthbert know whoās boss. This dual player thing is only papering over the cracks caused by the county boards neglect of the underage structures. Thereās a few ladās on that intermediate team that won the all ireland that are more deserving of a call up. Anyway Cork v Tipp this Sunday i canāt wait! Iāll be in the stadium early as well to shout for the Limerick minors. A Cork and Limerick double would be the job!
Unders on this at 54.5 is with a wager. Both potentially high scores but a few players will shit the pot on the day. 54.5 seems to be based on averages of their last 3 games where Tipp were coasting. Game will be a bit tighter Sunday
none of those players is a serious forward option. they are just about intercounty standard but thats it.
the papers had it that cronin was injured so it was almost inevitable he would be fit.
why would you pick cian mccarthy to win ball?
he doesn`t do that
[QUOTE=ātwiceasnice97, post: 999738, member: 1061ā]none of those players is a serious forward option. they are just about intercounty standard but thats it.
the papers had it that cronin was injured so it was almost inevitable he would be fit.
why would you pick cian mccarthy to win ball?
he doesn`t do that[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=āTheUlteriorMotive, post: 999623, member: 2272ā]Kenyan thing is a good one - Brother Colm documentary where he spoke about Rudisha
Rudisha is Kenyan. But Rudisha is not from the Kalenjin tribe which is the tribe most of the Kenyan runners but comes from Massaii tribe . Brother Colmās point was that genetics were not as important as the culture of excellence and that it was a huge part of Kenyan success - you trained with multiple gold medal Olympians etc[/QUOTE]
Ya of course the culture has a lot to do with it. But their genetics helps. Even some of the runners from Ethiopia and elsewhere who also do well end up having very similar genetic make up and itās believed they may have been originally from the same tribe.
Like a lot of good runners they look very similar in terms of limb lengths etc, but according to David Epstein the narrow hips and stiff (and long) ankles are the main physical difference. He reported some phenomenal times from people there who coach etc from kids who turn up with no formal training whatsoever.
Their make up is unique. The winning is because itās seen as a way to get out and get to college in the US, or at worst a private education in Kenya. He kinda indicated there is no huge passion for running with a lot of the recent champions and as soon as they retire they stop running completely.
Some very interesting similarities to the little town where the genetics of many of the best ever sprinters can be traced back to in Jamaica. Even a lot of the Canadian and Americans can be traced back there.
Unfortunately Iāll be hosting a corporate box on Sunday. Much as I tried to wangle out of it, my status as an elite project financier with a stellar hurling career means Iām required for at least one Croke Park game in the latter stages each season. My appointment last year was Clare v Limerick and I handled the Kilkenny v Galway replay in 2012. Our business partners regard the interaction with me as a genuine treat so I fully understand why my employer needs me to fulfil these duties.
