[QUOTE=âThe Scouse Cafu, post: 990846, member: 2660â]I doubt Dublin would take a punt on such an unproven coach.
Which Maher? Most of the Tipp team are named Maher.[/QUOTE]
P Maher
[QUOTE=âWhiplash, post: 990828, member: 638â]Looking at both teams objectively. I think Tipp have not really been tested thus far in the qualifier series. Galway upped the ante for about 50 minutes the first day out but Tipp always looked to have another gear. Having watched the munster final back I felt Limerick were as good as cork in that game and really should have been 5 or 6 up at half time. Home advantage would have been worth a few points to Cork in that game and only for Seamus Harnedyâs goal (as great an individual effort as it was), was very un Limerick like in its softness. That was the game changer. Cork fluffed their lines against Waterford first day out and we saw that Waterford were a rabble this year.
I think we have just as much fire power up front as Cork and should do enough to break even in midfield. I like the way the match ups look. I really dont rate their defence at all though. I think Bonnar could destroy Ellis and McDonnell will have his work cut out against Callinan. On the other side of the field Tipp backs measure up well against Corks prominent forward players. Paidi Maher should be able to compete well with Harnedy and Barrett/Cahill should be able to curb Cadogan/Horgan. If I was to call it I would say Tipp by 2 points.[/QUOTE]
virtually none of those match ups will happen. What games have you been watching?
[QUOTE=âThe Scouse Cafu, post: 990846, member: 2660â]
Which Maher? Most of the Tipp team are named Maher.[/QUOTE]
Does it maher which matter?
[QUOTE=âThe Scouse Cafu, post: 990846, member: 2660â]I doubt Dublin would take a punt on such an unproven coach.
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Not proven at IC, but a relatively successful coach none the less. Who is a successful IC coach? There are none really bar Sheedy who is very choosy about who he coaches, i doubt heâd fancy it. In fact, neither would Cusack.
They should appoint from within this time, there has to be good coaches in Dublin who know the players and the landscape. I donât believe they are that far off talent wise, but Daly is there too long.
Cork just need to bring back Aisake for this one and they are sorted.
Allen
[QUOTE=âTreatyStones, post: 990843, member: 1786â]Keaney pulled a nice stroke across Maher yesterday.
Broke the hurley across his knees and Maher didnât even flinch.[/QUOTE]
I didnât see the game but you would often get a belt of f hurley and you wouldnât feel it until after the match or until the next day depending on where you get hit and what part of the hurley makes contact. From knee to hip would leave a mark but if it is a clean connection and you are moving at pace you wouldnât feel too much at the time
Would you care to elaborate so please. I have seen every minute of the championship to date. O Neill wont mark Callinan because he has a height advantage over him and is not a full back. Cahalane is unproven so far. So by process of deduction I would reckon McDonnell is a cert to pick up Callinan. He is the form player of that trio. Again its not a huge leap to suggest that Ellis will be marking Bonnar. He has occupied the 6 role in all the games so far.
Ellis/Maher is the only one that will happen for sure.
Harnedy starts at half forward and goes in ff for a few balls but I never playing there for long.
I think Cork may even out Cafogan FF for periods and try and get some space in front of him.
O Neill will mark Callinan, not sure why you think Cork would dislodge him now that heâs more comfortable there.
I donât think Tipp have the overall athleticism for Cork in CP.
I think this thread will deliver Kevs greatest internet performance.
[QUOTE=âThe Scouse Cafu, post: 990837, member: 2660â]And bring in who?
Sheedy would be the only outstanding candidate I can think of.[/QUOTE]
Canât think of anyone off hand to take over but hurling overall in Dublin needs to be freshened up. It looks like we have gone stale at all levels and are no longer as competitive as we have been at under age level where we had been very successful up to a few years ago.
I suppose Sheedy would be the best of the known managers out there but as others have said they could appoint from within the county, someone who knows the players and the clubâs so they can hit the ground running. But with dublin the biggest handicap we have is the football with our excellent hurlers choosing the football.
[QUOTE=âtazdedub, post: 990924, member: 312â]Canât think of anyone off hand to take over but hurling overall in Dublin needs to be freshened up. It looks like we have gone stale at all levels and are no longer as competitive as we have been at under age level where we had been very successful up to a few years ago.
I suppose Sheedy would be the best of the known managers out there but as others have said they could appoint from within the county, someone who knows the players and the clubâs so they can hit the ground running. But with dublin the biggest handicap we have is the football with our excellent hurlers choosing the football.[/QUOTE]
Who would be a good option from within the county, pal?
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 990918, member: 273â]Ellis/Maher is the only one that will happen for sure.
Harnedy starts at half forward and goes in ff for a few balls but I never playing there for long.
I think Cork may even out Cafogan FF for periods and try and get some space in front of him.
O Neill will mark Callinan, not sure why you think Cork would dislodge him now that heâs more comfortable there.
I donât think Tipp have the overall athleticism for Cork in CP.[/QUOTE]
I couldnât agree with that. Tipp have speed and agility now in every line of the field now. Anyway thankfully the game is about skill and accuracy and those traits will ultimately separate the contenders from the also rans. You have to remember that Tipp have beaten cork at all levels in recent times. Even in the U21 last year Tipp annihilated Cork who had several senior players on show that day. I just look at the various match ups throughout the field and I like what I see. Aidan Walsh is having a superb year and has been a real find for Cork. Himself and Kearney are really dominating their area but Tipp have a very dynamic midfield too. I think Tipp will shoot a similar points total that Limerick did and the goal chances Limerick created, I dont think Tipp will spurn. If Tipp shoot 2-22 I cant see them been beaten. Cork dont score enough goals and dont have that ruthless streak.
[QUOTE=âtazdedub, post: 990924, member: 312â]Canât think of anyone off hand to take over but hurling overall in Dublin needs to be freshened up. It looks like we have gone stale at all levels and are no longer as competitive as we have been at under age level where we had been very successful up to a few years ago.
I suppose Sheedy would be the best of the known managers out there but as others have said they could appoint from within the county, someone who knows the players and the clubâs so they can hit the ground running. But with dublin the biggest handicap we have is the football with our excellent hurlers choosing the football.[/QUOTE]
I hear Kev is coming home soon, ye should snap him up
[QUOTE=âtazdedub, post: 990924, member: 312â]Canât think of anyone off hand to take over but hurling overall in Dublin needs to be freshened up. It looks like we have gone stale at all levels and are no longer as competitive as we have been at under age level where we had been very successful up to a few years ago.
I suppose Sheedy would be the best of the known managers out there but as others have said they could appoint from within the county, someone who knows the players and the clubâs so they can hit the ground running. But with dublin the biggest handicap we have is the football with our excellent hurlers choosing the football.[/QUOTE]
Gotta be some underage couches ready to step up though, the footballers have been doing succession with Gavin, Farrell, etc, whoâs in line from the hurling side? Is John McEvoy still involved?
Cork to win. I dont think Tipp have really beaten anyone of note so far either. Dublin were hanging in there for a long time yesterday until that second goal. I think Dublin were really poor this year, which puts our defeat to them into perspective too. Aidan Walsh will be key though at midfield. Tipp are finally getting it sorted there with McGrath and Woodlock, so as long as Walsh gets through the football and is good to go, thatâll have a big bearing on the result.
Stan Murrey Hession is the man to take the Dubs forward
McEvoy or Shay Boland are the only ones that come to mind.
Think itâll definitely be a higher profile outside appointment if Daly goes as there would be a feeling that if Dublin went for an internal appointment that hurling would be being effectively downsized.
Sheedy, OâGrady, Allen etc would be the likely candidates with Sheedy clearly the number one target, I expect.
[QUOTE=âThe Scouse Cafu, post: 990948, member: 2660â]McEvoy or Shay Boland are the only ones that come to mind.
Think itâll definitely be a higher profile outside appointment if Daly goes as there would be a feeling that if Dublin went for an internal appointment that hurling would be being effectively downsized.
Sheedy, OâGrady, Allen etc would be the likely candidates with Sheedy clearly the number one target, I expect.[/QUOTE]
I could see Allen or OâGrady taking arm and all were that job offered to them, Sheedy is a trickier one.