I’d say you could send anyone out to ref this one. It’s a real throw it me an let them hurl. I would suggest all he’ll have to do is throw it in & keep score
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 821477, member: 273”]Are you basing this on what you are reading from management etc or just you think Cork are superior?
I don’t think there is very much at all between the teams, but Corks approach is filing me with alot if confidence.
Apparently Paudie Sull is a big outside chance to be available. Seems very unlikely, but it’s out there anyway.[/quote]
I think Cork are superior. They upped it against KK and upped it significantly from that again against Dublin. My only worry would be their bench, but the only real test Clare have had this year was against Cork. Both teams have come on since then but Cork are totally transformed from the team they were in Munster, Clare have just tweaked their system and got it working. A woeful Galway team could have beaten them and an even worse Limerick team would only have lost by that scrappy goal had we put over those handy frees. It’s the amount of possession they cough up that leads me to favour Cork, having watched the last semi back on tv again in the cold light of day, I just couldn’t get over how much ball Limerick won/had, particularly from puckouts and I just don’t think a Cork team hurling to the standard of the last couple of games will be as wasteful.
Hup ya fucking boyas Critchley and Cuddy
[SIZE=6]Hurling ‘Stars of the 1980s’ Team Confirmed[/SIZE]
Monday, August 26, 2013
The GAA is delighted to confirm the selection of its Hurling ‘Stars of the ‘80s’ team which will be honoured on All-Ireland hurling final day on Sunday September 8 when Cork meet Clare at Croke Park.
After back-to-back winners Galway (1987-88) were honoured at last year’s final the GAA has availed of the opportunity to acknowledge a specially chosen team deemed to be best 15 hurlers from the 1980s who did not win All-Ireland senior medals.
All of those included in the final 15 were deemed to have made special contributions to the GAA through outstanding performances over prolonged periods.
Uachtarán Chumann Lúthchleas Gael Liam Ó Néill congratulated all those chosen and welcomed the opportunity to highlight the skills and dedication to a new audience of hurling followers.
He said: “We were presented with a rare opportunity to temporarily replace the Jubilee teams in both codes because of the back to back successes of both Galway (hurling) and Meath (football) in 1987/’88.
“Legions of top quality players grace Croke Park with their skills but not all are rewarded for their efforts with All-Ireland medals. This should in no way diminish their contribution to the GAA and to the game of hurling.
“For people like me who followed the game of hurling over the course of the 1980s the mention of those who have been chosen on this team evokes great memories and I laud each and everyone of them for the great moments they gave us and the legacy they left behind in their clubs and counties and indeed beyond.”
The team is as follows:
1. TOMMY QUAID (Limerick / Feoghenagh, RIP): Limerick’s first-choice goalkeeper from 1976 to 1993, playing in four Munster finals and the All-Ireland final of 1980. Won Railway Cup and NHL medals and an All-Star award in 1992.
2. JOHN GALVIN (Waterford / Portlaw): His career lasted 14 years from 1972 with Waterford and he also represented Ireland in Shinty. Was the county’s first All-Star award winner in 1974 and won a second award in 1982.
3. LEONARD ENRIGHT (Limerick / Patrickswell): One of the outstanding full-backs of his generation, he was sub goalkeeper when Limerick won the 1971 NHL title. Also excelled in other sports, including athletics. All-Star awards in 1980, ’81 and ’83.
4. DESSIE DONNELLY (Antrim / Ballycastle): Selected on the Antrim team of the century. Played in the 1980 All-Ireland club final and the All-Ireland hurling final of 1989 – when he won an All-Star.
5. GER LOUGHNANE (Clare / Feakle): The inspiration behind Clare’s resurgence in the nineties and Galway manager from 2006 to ’08. He won NHL and Railway Cup medals and was twice an All-Star, in 1974 (Clare’s first) and ’77.
6. SEÁN STACK (Clare / Sixmilebridge): Widely recognised as one of the outstanding centre-backs of his generation, he won two NHL medals with Clare and played on two winning Railway Cup winning teams in 1984 and ’85. Won an All-Star award in 1981.
7. TERENCE McNAUGHTON (Antrim / Cushendall): The man affectionately known as ‘Sambo’ operated both in attack and defence over a lengthy career, lining out at corner-forward in the 1989 All-Ireland final. Won an All-Star award in 1991 and formerly joint Antrim manager.
8. MOSSY WALSH (Waterford / Ballyduff): Distinguished himself at midfield all through the eighties, especially in the Munster finals of 1982 and ’83. Was an All-Star winner in 1980 and a year later won a Railway Cup medal at wing-forward.
9. PAT CRITCHLEY (Laois / Portlaoise): A dual player who also played basketball at a high level, he was selected on the Laois hurling team of the millennium. Won an All-Ireland club football medal in 1980 and is the only Laois hurler to win an All-Star (in 1985).
10. JOHN CALLINAN (Clare / Clarecastle): Played Railway Cup with Munster and the Combined Universities and won a fourth medal in 1985. Was on Clare’s NHL winning teams of 1977 and ’78 and won All-Stars in 1979 and 1981.
11. MARTIN QUIGLEY (Wexford / Rathnure): Member of the last Wexford team to win the All-Ireland minor title (1968). In 1973, he won an NHL medal and the first of four consecutive All-Star awards. Played on four winning Leinster teams.
12. PADDY KELLY (Limerick / Kilmallock): A national hurdles champion, he earned a reputation as a speedy and stylish hurler with Limerick all through the eighties. Won an All-Star in 1984, he was on the losing Munster team in the Railway Cup final of 1986.
13. DAVID KILCOYNE (Westmeath / Ringtown): One of the ‘greats’ of Westmeath hurling. A Railway Cup and All-Ireland ‘B’ medal winner, he won the county’s only All-Star in 1988 and last year received a Leinster ‘Hall of Fame’ award.
14. P.J. CUDDY (Laois / Camross): A prolific scorer over the course of a lengthy career. Played in the 1977 All-Ireland club final and named on the Laois team of the millennium. Won a Railway Cup medal in his fourth final in 1988.
15. JIM GREENE (Waterford / Mount Sion): An All-Star winner in 1982, he won the last of eight county championship medals in 1988 in the company of his son Brian. Manager when the Déise last contested the All-Ireland minor final in 1992.
At the invitation of the GAA the final selection as listed above was chosen by an experienced panel of All-Star and former All-Star selectors who covered Gaelic games for the print and broadcast media during the 1980s.
The selection panel consisted of: Martin Breheny (Irish Independent); Brian Carthy (RTÉ Radio); Michael Lyster (RTÉ Television); Seán Moran (Irish Times); Mártan Ó Ciardha (formerly Raidió na Gaeltachta); Jim O’Sullivan (formerly Irish Examiner).
How much are the tickets this year?
80 I would guess
He’s from Offaly, so that will be a challenge for him, though there will more than likely a literate person manning the scoreboard.
I fancy Cork here. Both Galway and Limerick practically laid down and died for them and that has to go down as a negative for Clare especially as Cork look to have had the much tougher route… Their a tidy outfit but may have over achieved in what’s been an entertaining and open season if a bit down on the standard we’ve become accustomed to throughout the KK years. I cannot see them breaching the Cork full back line or keeper and I’d have my doubts Ryan will be as effective on frees, awesome and all as he was the last day. The key for JBM will be how he goes about dealing with the threat from Collins and particularly Kelly. If he’s happy with Murphys fitness I’d say he’ll get the job of keeping a handle on Kelly for the opening quarter at least with Joyce taking up Podge.
For Cork Lehane whose showed flashes the last couple of seasons came good against Dublin and he along with find of the season Seamus Hernedy can both win their own ball and cause a lot of problems for the Clare defence. Horan is on track for HOTY and with Cronin, McLaughlin and O Farrell all contributing up front(not to mention Nash’s scoring frees from deep) I reckon Cork will find scores just that little bit easier to come by on the day and should shade it by maybe 3 or 4 points.
A lot comes down to how each team deals with the pressure and hype. Next two weeks there will be huge crowds watching training and everywhere they go people will want to discuss the match. Each side has to manage that and deal with the build up, day before, day of the game as it is new to both teams.
Last year with Mayo the game was over for them after ten minutes. Long range weather forecast is for showers on the day - not sure how each team adapts to that.
[quote=“Lazarus, post: 822926, member: 286”]I fancy Cork here. Both Galway and Limerick practically laid down and died for them and that has to go down as a negative for Clare especially as Cork look to have had the much tougher route… Their a tidy outfit but may have over achieved in what’s been an entertaining and open season if a bit down on the standard we’ve become accustomed to throughout the KK years. I cannot see them breaching the Cork full back line or keeper and I’d have my doubts Ryan will be as effective on frees, awesome and all as he was the last day. The key for JBM will be how he goes about dealing with the threat from Collins and particularly Kelly. If he’s happy with Murphys fitness I’d say he’ll get the job of keeping a handle on Kelly for the opening quarter at least with Joyce taking up Podge.
For Cork Lehane whose showed flashes the last couple of seasons came good against Dublin and he along with find of the season Seamus Hernedy can both win their own ball and cause a lot of problems for the Clare defence. Horan is on track for HOTY and with Cronin, McLaughlin and O Farrell all contributing up front(not to mention Nash’s scoring frees from deep) I reckon Cork will find scores just that little bit easier to come by on the day and should shade it by maybe 3 or 4 points.[/quote]
Pretty convincing. I’m coming around to this point of view too. Then again Cork got the benefit of two wrong sending offs and shouldn’t even be in the final.
I believe Cork would have won both those games regardless
Kk game maybe, but the Dublin game, for me, absolutely not. Minus O’Dwyer being sent off we’d have a Clare v Dublin final I reckon. I also think Daly will see this and, especially if cork win, will give it another year with dub.
Oh great, this again.
Well we’ll never know but my hunch is that Cork were turning the screw against Dublin. Daly will stay on if his expenses are right
Nope, Cork would have won.
We’ll never know really but with 50 mins gone Dublin had recovered corks half time lead and gone two ahead. They looked more settled than in the first half and most importantly their half forward line was well on top, which O’Dwyer was a huge part of. You can only judge it on the balance of play up to the sending off too, whatever happened after is irrelevant. Also, Dublin had showed an ability to close out close games and cork hadn’t shown anything to suggest they could finish stronger. Those are my reasons for thinking Dublin would have won.
I am hearing that there was a fine crowd in Ennis tonight to watch the open training session. Great to see:clap:
That’s easily your most idiotic post on hurling.
Cork had closed out 2 games already at that stage, Clare & KK.
Of course it matters what happened afterwards (sending off) , the game still had to be played. Bizarre statement.
The balance of play up to the sending off had been point for point all day, there was only a point in it when he went.
Discipline is part of the game, it’s like easy frees. If you are not good at it you reduce your chances of winning.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 823153, member: 273”]That’s easily your most idiotic post on hurling.
Cork had closed out 2 games already at that stage, Clare & KK.
Of course it matters what happened afterwards (sending off) , the game still had to be played. Bizarre statement.
The balance of play up to the sending off had been point for point all day, there was only a point in it when he went.
Discipline is part of the game, it’s like easy frees. If you are not good at it you reduce your chances of winning.[/quote]
Sometimes I think you are wilfully retarded just to disagree.
On discipline, pretty much everyone agrees there should have been no sending off, which means discipline was kept, which means your point is idiotic.
Cork had won two games pretty well, my point was Dublin had closed out close games, and were on top in the key areas at half back and at half forward in the second half. The momentum and balance of play in the second half up til the sending off were with Dublin.
What happened after is irrelevant to this discussion because you cannot judge what would have happened had there been no sending off after the actual sending off had happened, you understand that don’t you?
I know you are wearing red tinted glasses but if you can’t recognise that there are valid reasons to suggest that Dublin would have won had there been no sending off then you are even more wilfully retarded than I thought.